A terrible, terrible tragedy.

[Doc]

Because I want to keep things nice here, I up front state the following post is very ironic.
Wow Doc I'm so impressed and amazed that I have fallen in love with you....6 shots in 2 seconds....
Most of them however are very average or below average people. And there are the ones that come back from Irak, handicapped and that have the honor to recover in Walter Reed.
...the following part is more serious again....
Listen I can see the point you are making, and also what occhi and imanerd are making.....but the way of writing it down...pffff. Maybe in America you can impress people with this 'marines' and 'guns' stuff......but we all know that you don't become a rough guy just because of some job.
I understand that training makes you better, of course very true, no need to explain but this almost being in love with your marines (which also a lot of dutch people seem to be) sounds a bit silly to me.

You also obviously didn't want to understand the way this thread was going. We are not here to have a pissing contest of who is toughest or who can shoot more or faster or better. If your idea of rough is good shooting....this korean guy in Virginia was pretty rough.....I mean he got quite a record there.....those to amateurs in Colombine didnt even reach half the number of victims and they even had heavier arms.
My whole point is that any flipped guy can even he has easy access to a gun do something like this......it is not the point if there are 30 victims or 5 it is the same big tragedy. But if your point of being rough is that you are able to kill people....than we strongly disagree on that. (but I guess it isn't).
Another point: are these kind of acts influenced by the amount of media coverage. In Holland a few months ago we had 4 or 5 cases in which one parent killed his/her children and him/herself in a timespan of 10 days or so. Research showed that these tragedies have somewhat a copycat effect on others.....as strange as it might sound. I mean for a parent to kill his/her children something seriously must have snapped in their head.........you would guess these people wouldn't think clear anymore to make this decision of copying another case.

I think you fail to appreciate how much dicipline goes into learning to shoot like that. Shooting from the hip and aquiring new targets in a fraction of a second with your hands... Men that can do this have won wars and saved lives... A good marksman can save lives in hostage situations by nailing the target and not nailing the hostages... For every bit of evil you can think of, I can think of the good to match it. I've saved countless numbers of livestock, cows, goats, chickens, lambs, helpless cute little animals by a good clean shot to remove something threatening them. God himself only knows how many snakes I've had to snipe, and how many lives have been effected by my efforts.

People I have trained to shoot have gone on to do some great things themselves. They don't go around blowing people's heads off... Nor do they have accidents with firearms like so many seem to do.

Guns are not evil. They are tools. Objects. People killed each other with pointy sticks, and those weren't evil either. Just the people using them.