Iraqi Oil
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You cover much ground in your post, but here it goes;
Quote:Why are people ridiculed, when they protest against a war? Is it fair to do so, just because some of them mistake themselves in the motivations of politicians? How many of those in favor of a war, can claim to truly understand why we will have it?
I don't respect gung-ho pro-war, racist, bigotted idiots either. War is the natural consequence of a failed politic. The UN was founded as a forum for nations to arbitrate and negotiate to avoid war. In this case you have individual nations politics and self-interest interfering with what some others nations see as a threat to their security. If the UN fails to find a way for the nations to resolve the conflict peacefully, then they will solve it with war.

Quote:And why is it, that the pollution of coal power plants makes nuclear power plants safer? How does being against nuclear power make you in favor of pollution? Don't we have other energy sources to explore? Is cutting down on our energy use (waste, rather) out of the question?
Explore yes, let's do it! But, unless we have an alternative, the only other choice is to not use energy. So, will you choose who will freeze, and who will starve? So that leaves you with a choice between dirty coal, dirty oil, or nuclear. The only problem with nuclear is how to safely store the waste. Don't you think the toxic coal ash should have the same scrutiny applied? But, it doesn't. It just gets dumped into land fills.

Quote:Btw, the USA is not the first to benefit from wars. Here in Europe, it gave Germany and France their powerful economy, and that is why the governments of those countries are now against this war.
That is a ridiculous statement. Germany and France were devastated after WWII. The reason why they are doing well is from peaceful economic growth and capital expansion. The only nations that benefited from WWII, were those who had little reconstruction to do and transformed their wartime economies for peace.

Quote:not because Iraq ignores UN resolutions (Who doesn't?
There is a problem. The alternative to a strong UN is war.

Quote:The USA even reserves the right to attack member countries like mine, if we ever dare to arrest an American for crimes of war), not because of Human Rights (Many countries have death penalties, and deny thousands of prisoners a proper trial. On both sides), and not because of crimes against the ecology (It wasn't Iraq who opposed the Kyoto Treaty, was it?). No, it's because we don't mind becoming rich at the expense of others. At best, we wonder how long we can go on like this.
I don't get your point. What countries has the US attacked?
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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