05-30-2003, 01:32 PM
...I hope the court upholds the ruling. The woman got what she deserved. Period.
And I speak as someone who grew up in a domestic abuse environment, against my mother, and myself. I am, in no way, shape, of form, implying that the woman "got what she deserved" in terms of abuse. That is never true, ever, as far as I am concerned (self-defense is another matter entirely; the abuse, be it physical, mental, or emotional, of ANYONE is wrong, man or woman; I may hold to the old chivalries of never hitting a woman, but I also hold to the common sense values of equality). However, she DID get what she deserved insofar as aiding in the violation of a restraining order. She invited him, and he accpeted. They are both guilty, IMO, as neither should have allowed it to happen. Her invitation in itself automatically, IMO, invalidates the restraining order for that period. His acceptance is breaking the law in regards to that restraining order.
Thus, try and fry them both. They ARE adults. And that idiotic argument about "Women in abusive relationships are not always in a position where they're going to act in their own best interest" is pure hogwash. Plain and simple. If someone told that to me, I would laugh in their face. I would laugh hard, until my face turned blue and they had to cart me away to the hospital for oxygen depletion. That is the most idiotic argument I have ever heard. It is true that anyone, not just women, in an abusive relationship tend to not always think properly, and thus tend to keep themselves in harms way instead of pulling themselves out of it, but that's no excuse. You're an adult. That you can't ACT like one is no excuse for you not to be TREATED like one. You're not mentally handicapped. You're just plain foolish. Grow up, and live with your choices.
It's one thing to not leave an abusive relationship when he's got a gun on you. It's another when you bail him out of jail for beating your face in. I'm sorry, but I hold NO pity for the latter. If you invite the devil into your home, you forfeit your right to complain about him prodding you with his pitchfork.
And I speak as someone who grew up in a domestic abuse environment, against my mother, and myself. I am, in no way, shape, of form, implying that the woman "got what she deserved" in terms of abuse. That is never true, ever, as far as I am concerned (self-defense is another matter entirely; the abuse, be it physical, mental, or emotional, of ANYONE is wrong, man or woman; I may hold to the old chivalries of never hitting a woman, but I also hold to the common sense values of equality). However, she DID get what she deserved insofar as aiding in the violation of a restraining order. She invited him, and he accpeted. They are both guilty, IMO, as neither should have allowed it to happen. Her invitation in itself automatically, IMO, invalidates the restraining order for that period. His acceptance is breaking the law in regards to that restraining order.
Thus, try and fry them both. They ARE adults. And that idiotic argument about "Women in abusive relationships are not always in a position where they're going to act in their own best interest" is pure hogwash. Plain and simple. If someone told that to me, I would laugh in their face. I would laugh hard, until my face turned blue and they had to cart me away to the hospital for oxygen depletion. That is the most idiotic argument I have ever heard. It is true that anyone, not just women, in an abusive relationship tend to not always think properly, and thus tend to keep themselves in harms way instead of pulling themselves out of it, but that's no excuse. You're an adult. That you can't ACT like one is no excuse for you not to be TREATED like one. You're not mentally handicapped. You're just plain foolish. Grow up, and live with your choices.
It's one thing to not leave an abusive relationship when he's got a gun on you. It's another when you bail him out of jail for beating your face in. I'm sorry, but I hold NO pity for the latter. If you invite the devil into your home, you forfeit your right to complain about him prodding you with his pitchfork.
Roland *The Gunslinger*