Game-Changing New Powers
Quote:So really does any healing class feel they are up to par? I'm not sure Blizzard intended anyone to solo heal anything anymore, they seem to have intended that you have VE help, or Imp Leader of the pack help or a paladin or shaman that can help or a druid that can help.
Well, nobody's going to solo heal a heroic instance. It's not so much the ability to keep up with incoming damage, since eventually with super gear that'll be possible; rather, there are too many mobs in there that have nasty CC effects or require lots of cleansing/dispelling that prevents a healer from actually healing. In heroic Mana Tombs, for instance, there are mobs that just chain-inferno like mad, forcing a Priest to play whack-a-mole dispel every time the GCD is up. Without a backup healer, the group wipes.

Priests dominate healing in a 5-man environment, and that's because it maximizes the power of our group AoE healing. The moment you put them in a raid, things change drastically.

Probably the most notable point of why Priests feel so maligned is that we're such paper healers. When Moroes vanishes and comes back, one-shotting you before a tank can pick him up, you know that a Paladin would have laughed at it. Yes, one-shot. I take a crushing blow with Inner Fire up for 9000+ damage and I hit the floor. I really feel sorry for any tank who has to freak out every time a raid mob so much as LOOKS at their healer. When trash smacks me around for 3000-4000 damage per hit, there's zero room for error. Keep in mind that Inner Fire has been nerfed; it provides 7% less armor mitigation at 70 than it did at 60 because Blizzard can't seem to do basic math. And this comes on top of the fact that DPS'ers do more damage than ever.

20 second cooldown on PoM doesn't hurt PvE *too* much. I think it's still too long a delay, but it's not the end of the world. It's in PvP that we take the shaft. It's in PvP where we've been taking the shaft for a while now. Tell me, as players' mana pools double in the expansion, why isn't Mana Burn scaling one bit? Are you aware of how totally useless it is now?

Quote:Of course since I've seen a holy priest put on DPS gear and compete with the top DPS classes as well I thought something might be wrong there, but the down time the holy priest in a DPS roll has compared to other classes is a pretty good balance as it is more than anyone else.
Yeah, this actually creates some difficulty for me. When I describe how brutally painful farming is for me, other players note my burst damage output in DPS gear and wonder what I'm smoking. In group environments, this doesn't show, since I'm drinking after every 1-2 pulls. Solo farming, though, is when my need to drink so often really shines. I can nuke down mobs pretty fast, but when doing so against equivalent-level mobs, I'm stopping to drink every 3 to 4 kills. It's torture.

I could write a 20-page-long QQ post about how this PoM nerf upsets me so much. PoM is the spell they gave us that made up for all the other crap we've taken in the past 2 months as I get increasingly marginalized in PvP. Why anyone would take a holy Priest in an arena match after this patch is beyond me; I'd just die 20 seconds in and contribute nothing. Instead of plastering this forum with my whining, I'll just link to two threads that do it a lot better than I can:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=79159761&sid=1 - first two pages are chock full of quality explanations, read em

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=79208081&sid=1

-Bolty
Quote:Considering the mods here are generally liberals who seem to have a soft spot for fascism and white supremacy (despite them saying otherwise), me being perma-banned at some point is probably not out of the question.
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Game-Changing New Powers - by Bolty - 01-22-2007, 01:45 PM
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