More on Warlocks in the Expansion

[Kevin]

I'm sorry, but that's beyond obscene. Warlocks and Hunters both need to be nerfed incredibly hard to bring them in line with the rest of the classes. I find it hard to describe either class without extensive use of expletives these days.

I have to agree. Two of my 60's are a Tauren Hunter and an Undead Warlock. The hunter has 7/8 T1, 2/8 T2, Rhok, was exalted with AV before the patch. Decent gear but not uber. The lock has 4/6 of the blue PvP set (was rank 9 before the patch), 1/6 of the purple PvP (the shoulder) and a spellblade she was exalted with AV and honored or revered with WSG or AB. She has no raid gear.

Rogues that are really good at stun locks can sometimes kill one of them. The only other things that can hope to kill me are locks or other hunters. I've PvP'd as all 3 specs with the hunter, all 3 pwn people. I've PvP'd under all 3 trees as the lock. I pwn'd with all of them. I'm most comfortable as affliction though.

Marks hunters, now that I'm full affliction with an instant fear + death coil, are about the only think I worry about on my lock. I don't even worry about other locks with her unless they really outgear me. I will see 2 opponents, don't care what class and I will assume that I will kill both of them. Most of the time I'm right. It often takes at least 3 people to beat me in the open field and even after I die, I'll usually kill 1 or 2 of them on the lock.

PvE, even with "lesser" gear I've gone into MC and kept up with all other classes but the mages and these are people in gear like my hunter, full T1 + 2-6 pcs of T2 and some PvP gear.

Warlocks are way way overpowered.

My hunter in PvE destroys people on damage, I get beat by ice mages with elementals, that's it. I did it as Marks, as survival, and now I'm beast and still do it (even when I can't use the pet though my 18 slot quiver starts to feel a little small at the stupid attack rates I have, I'm firing Rhok at a sub 2.0 speed about 80% of the time... and it's 2.1 speed the rest of the time).

And when it comes to soloing in the world, the hunter is just retardly powerful. Nothing has a chance. If the 5K life, 8K armor unbuffed pet can't tank it I can kite it.

I've got an L60 warrior, druid, paladin (and my shaman is nearly there as well). The hunter and lock both have more survivability than even the paladin in solo PvE and kill a heck of a lot faster. You combine in the pet and 300 DPS is easy to sustain for both the lock and the hunter and they can both never be touched if I don't want to be.

So yeah, I'm fully aware that I spend a lot of time on two classes that are just stupidly overpowered in PvP and PvE in my opinion and buffing locks even more just seem silly to me.