Warrior Talents Updated

[Concillian]

I do. Early reports have Hunters kicking much Rogue butt in the DPS department, Warriors beating them (before yesterday's changes), and haven't seen anything on Mages but they were already equal to Rogues and got many, many more +damage% talents than Rogues did.

The warrior changes yesterday did nothing that will help raiding "DPS warriors" They wouldn't be getting top end arms talents anyway. The changes bring arms warriors more in-line with fury warriors and to make the bottom fury talents worth taking over going fury / prot and getting 1H spec. The utility talent blood frenzy is easier to get in a hybrid, which should make you happy, as rogues and hunters will be the primary beneficiaries.

Just as you discount the damage added to the bottom end of the assassination and subtlety trees as useless because an "ideal" raiding spec will be combat, the bottom of the arms tree can be equally discounted. The changes made are incredibly PvP oriented, few warriors are seriously talking about 41+ arms as a raiding or even a hybrid raiding spec. Most talents practical in arms for raiding will be ~33 points IMO. This gives decent DPS and room for your important protection talents.

Just as happened with the rogue trees, the damage added here brings the non-raid DPS tree more in line with the raid DPS tree. Do not confuse this with adding warrior DPS to a raiding DPS spec, because it won't.

And every day Blizzard releases one minor change for Rogues while some other class got a complete overhaul I'm getting more angry. Seriously, stop with the stupid games and trying to lull us into sleep with tiny changes hoping we won't notice just how minor they are while everyone else is going up in leaps and bounds.

Don't pretend rogues got nothing.
- The 41 pointer in combat is about 2 - 2.5% DPS increase if I modify the damage spreadsheet accordingly.
- Assuming a 1.6 speed offhand and 85% hit rate, potency is looking to add around 16% energy on average, which allows for more backstabs. Assuming you still ahve to use SnD all the time and never another finisher, you still get a backstab DPS increase that is point for point is better than Lethality.
- Add in the small agility increase of Vitality and you're talking about a total of around 8-9% total damage increase from 10 new talent points, even counting the 'filler' points.
I'm not buying the whining, I don't think your complaints are valid. The initial complaints were justified, the first shot at the rogue talents weren't great... but Blizzard has "nickel and dimed" rogues back into the ball game. Many small changes are adding up to be a decent overall improvement in the "raid DPS" build.