09-20-2006, 04:32 PM
Quote:So, for this they should die? Don Rickles and George Carlin made careers out of insulting people (in different ways) as part of their comedy/social commentary.
Should they have been killed for that?
I have been known to sneer at or mock Eurotrash. Should I be killed for that?
Pete has, in posts at the DSF and here, belittled idiots. Should he be killed for that?
Where do you stand, eppie, on free speech? Do you understand it?
Occhi
This is a very weak post of you occhi. Do you on purpose not understand me or are you really not able to read?
In several ocasions in this thread, and tens of times in other threads here on the lounge i'm always the pacifist one in the discussion, the one always against violence even if everybody else things it is logical.
Why do you use this populist way of ridiculing my post?
Never have I said that i agreed with this murder or with any murder. I just say, and maybe you can react on that, that I don't find it reason to start thinking Holland is having a problem here.
People get killed, mainly for stupid reason, because somebody doesn't like them, because a spouse found another partner, because somebody is just on the wrong place, or, what we also saw in Holland because somebody said to some guys to stop driving around a parking place with a small motorbike all the time.
Personally, I can say I have lost a family member, in a stupid way.
I must say, I'm actually getting quite pissed at you for this post (for the first time that happened here on the lounge). I know you don't mean it that bad that is why I won't be mad for long, and give you chance to think about this again. I think you have a problem (I also saw this eg in docs death penalty threads) with seeing the difference between things like, 'cause', 'reason', 'why', and seeing things in perspective.
As I say again (I hope you will remember it this time) I disagree with all my heart with the murder on van Gogh (more so because as I also said before I hate religion related actions), but from all the murders that are comitted in Holland a year, this might have been the most logic one.
I mean if I go demonstrating and insulting people of one of your freedom armies (is that the term) I know the chance that I get killed is very big......that they are 100 % to blame for it, does not matter to me that much if I'm dead.
The guy that killed van Gogh is behind bars for the rest of his life, and right so. End of story.I don't want the actiosn of one idiot to change the social history of the netherlands.