I am out of here

[Jarulf]

I have a tailor at 300 and one at 270. I have never bought runecloth.

Good for you. I have had to (do note, my character just reached 60, I have not had it at 60 for a liong time, hence myitems are from leveling from 1-60 only (and some play at 60). perhaps I have played in different areas or versus more non humans than you do. I alsmot never farm or grind but tend to always have some quests or similar going on when I play.

I don't grind much, and never for runecloth. I have a crapton in the bank, I've broken my packrat urges and started selling it. Now my mains are healers, so I don't use a lot of bandages. But I also have 4-5 characters at 300 first aid.

Fine, appearantly the game is sufficiently random for this to happen. To me it was not, and yes, my character is a priest as well. Do note that I don't have multiple high level charcater to support each other, hence it has to manage on his own so to speak.

The typical grind is the Satyrs in Felwood. They drops decent amounts of cash, as well as a lot of runecloth, so its not NO benefit. And if you are looking for more of a challenge, many classes can solo the packs in DM east. Or you can go to south winterspring.

Yes, I know were to get Felcloth. Obviously there is some extra benefit, that was not the point. The point is that I don't get anything extra other than a few felcloth every now and then. Doing other things I would typically finish quests as well (on top of gold, cloth and whatever) plus items exp and so on. Gold and clot you get from anyplace no matter what (cloth as long as human). That doesn't change the estimates for me on how long it would take to craft or level it that I wrote in the last post.

Ghost mushrooms are easy to farm in the hinterlands or mauradon. A few hundred elementals in Un'goro will get you enough essence of fire, but that one is probably better to purchase because supply >> demand, because a ton drops in MC. The water and LBS are a bit tougher, but this is an epic item, you can't expect it to be easy.

And you are allready starting to describe the EXACT problem I was talking about. Not only do I need to spend a a lot of time grinding for one speicifc rare item from satyrs, i next need to go to another place to grind a second type of monster for another, and then a third palce for a third and so on. This all asume I play as a robot based on what sites claim the best grind spot for a specific item. Typically again, nothing extra except gold.

But yeah, the fact that you are wrong about this

Exactly what was I wrong about?

and a couple of other tailored items

Huh? What other item have I discussed and got wrong? I have leveled traiding to 300 you know, so it is not like I am making up as I write. True I am not the expert, I am not the super framrer and no, I don't know (nor do I want to) the perfect play to minimize something in the extreme. For most people, that is not the case and things are more like for me. I am sure you can level crafting tradeskills in no time, just as people level to 60 in a few days, that is irellevant as for most, that does not hapen.

doesn't mean that the process of leveling tradeskills is lame, or that you should stay in the game if you aren't having fun.

We were discussing the crafting of ONE item, not leveling. Leveling is made by pointless multiple crafting of a single item that require the least ingreadients. You simply farm runecloth and then level. Since I don?t like farming hour after hour and since I have had to buy tons of runecloth to get there some time after hitting 60, I appearantly play ALL wrong or have extreme unluck. Consideinrg I see the same in all crafting skills I doubt it is luck so I guess I have to stick with being one of the worst plaeyrs of WoW for not understangind how to get any items. Sure, instead of having fun, I should appearantly grind specific items for a few days, move on to the next and so on.

As for staying, what the hech do you think I said in the title? That I still stay? No, I said because for me it is not fun, I am leaving. Comming to tell me I am wrong and that in fact I did not level extremely slow is not true sinc eI HAVE leveled slow. Heck, my enchanting is at 245 (or whatever) and the speed (or lack of) that I get items to dissenchant to get the ingredients for leveling just one level is just to long (and I still have to buy other ingredients). It would take me weeks of nothing else to get to 300 (yes, it would mean not crafting that belt, leveling anything else, doing any quests and so on). As I said, this game is all about doing one thing in absurdum to get anywere, you can?t do a bit of everything since you progress nowere despite spending tons of time. That is, it is not the combined time and effeort that matters, it is only the individual times on each booring activity. The way to turn it not boring for me is to switch between stuff, but that doesn?t work in this game.