08-09-2006, 03:27 AM
Thanks for the help everyone, things have settled down a bit and it looks like I'll be getting my first chance to play Feral in a raid
We spent tonight wiping on Razorgore, the first boss in BWL. Wiping on his adds in fact. Druids were healers in this fight. Kiters were shamans and warriors and hunters. The hunters were a disaster and we stopped using them after a couple of tries. They took huge amounts of damage and complained of getting cleaved and dazed. I think they had Aspect of the Cheetah on which in retrospect was probably a mistake. The shamans include some of our more raw players and some of them weren't very good (although a couple were excellent). They had a real problem keeping an Earthbind totem up in their assigned spot while still kiting mobs. Of the Warriors I think only one had Piercing Howl and I suspect they were a bit to keen to grab aggro by whacking things that hit them back pretty hard because their life dropped very fast
Despite all that we reached 5 eggs twice which is pretty good for a first try by all accounts
Next time round the officers are talking about using some Feral Druids to try kiting (along with Warriors). I'm quite buzzy about this because I fancy myself as a decent WSG flag-runner and it seems pretty similar
In flag-running gear I have 4 sprints: Swiftness Potions, Catform Dash, Skull of Impending Doom and Nifty Stopwatch. (The last two used to share a timer I believe, they certainly don't now)
Our warriors have been getting aggro by hitting things but I'm thinking that heals would be a better way to get aggro
We will have Earthbind totems in each corner (although we had some trouble tonight with mobs attacking the totems - any advice on this?). After some problems with healers in the centre getting aggro we've opted for a 2 groups in each corner of the room strategy
I'm thinking to set CTRA to display 8 groups. In the display I'll drag the 2 groups we have in the South at the bottom of the screen, the two groups in the West on the left of the screen, the 2 groups we have up North at the top of the screen, and the East groups on the right
Then run clockwise around the room dropping Rejuvenates on whoever is available
If I start getting hit I'll rejuvenate myself and sprint, using the ramps to gain extra distance
I'm not sure whether kiting something up a ramp then dropping off the side of the ramp buys me enough time to cast Regrowth. I'd love it if I could since that's a ton of extra aggro
I'm also considering using feral charge to gain distance and aggro extra mobs. If I have 5 mobs chasing me and Feral charge something up ahead I gain distance on the pursuers and immobilise the new target long enough to escape that one too - at least that's the theory
A technical question - if I rejuvenate then go Bear do the innate Bearform threat modifier and the +15% threat talent apply to the Heal over time ticks for more healing aggro?
Should I try not to get too many adds chasing me? Is it suicide to have 20 things chasing you no matter what tricks you have in the bag?
Has anyone here done this encounter as a Feral Druid kiter? I'd love to hear about other people's experiences
We spent tonight wiping on Razorgore, the first boss in BWL. Wiping on his adds in fact. Druids were healers in this fight. Kiters were shamans and warriors and hunters. The hunters were a disaster and we stopped using them after a couple of tries. They took huge amounts of damage and complained of getting cleaved and dazed. I think they had Aspect of the Cheetah on which in retrospect was probably a mistake. The shamans include some of our more raw players and some of them weren't very good (although a couple were excellent). They had a real problem keeping an Earthbind totem up in their assigned spot while still kiting mobs. Of the Warriors I think only one had Piercing Howl and I suspect they were a bit to keen to grab aggro by whacking things that hit them back pretty hard because their life dropped very fast
Despite all that we reached 5 eggs twice which is pretty good for a first try by all accounts
Next time round the officers are talking about using some Feral Druids to try kiting (along with Warriors). I'm quite buzzy about this because I fancy myself as a decent WSG flag-runner and it seems pretty similar
In flag-running gear I have 4 sprints: Swiftness Potions, Catform Dash, Skull of Impending Doom and Nifty Stopwatch. (The last two used to share a timer I believe, they certainly don't now)
Our warriors have been getting aggro by hitting things but I'm thinking that heals would be a better way to get aggro
We will have Earthbind totems in each corner (although we had some trouble tonight with mobs attacking the totems - any advice on this?). After some problems with healers in the centre getting aggro we've opted for a 2 groups in each corner of the room strategy
I'm thinking to set CTRA to display 8 groups. In the display I'll drag the 2 groups we have in the South at the bottom of the screen, the two groups in the West on the left of the screen, the 2 groups we have up North at the top of the screen, and the East groups on the right
Then run clockwise around the room dropping Rejuvenates on whoever is available
If I start getting hit I'll rejuvenate myself and sprint, using the ramps to gain extra distance
I'm not sure whether kiting something up a ramp then dropping off the side of the ramp buys me enough time to cast Regrowth. I'd love it if I could since that's a ton of extra aggro
I'm also considering using feral charge to gain distance and aggro extra mobs. If I have 5 mobs chasing me and Feral charge something up ahead I gain distance on the pursuers and immobilise the new target long enough to escape that one too - at least that's the theory
A technical question - if I rejuvenate then go Bear do the innate Bearform threat modifier and the +15% threat talent apply to the Heal over time ticks for more healing aggro?
Should I try not to get too many adds chasing me? Is it suicide to have 20 things chasing you no matter what tricks you have in the bag?
Has anyone here done this encounter as a Feral Druid kiter? I'd love to hear about other people's experiences