07-26-2006, 01:12 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2006, 01:27 AM by Concillian.)
2H fury has two additional bonuses:
1) the need for +% hit is significantly reduced, and that is a godsend in blue / early purple level gearing
2) you get the most from enchant procs (Crusader primarily, but Lifesteal or Fiery work too)
2H weapons are slowest, and the way an enchant proc works is on a proc per unit time average, then applies a % to the weapon. say you have a fast weapon with 5% chance or a slower weapon with 10% chance. Each additional attack has a significantly higher chance of triggering the proc with the slower weapon. This further synergizes with the tendency to prefer WW as a 2nd rage dump (after bloodthirst) for 2H fury vs. heroic strike or cleave for DW. Since WW is an instant it provides an extra chance to proc.
Personally I think TUF (The Unstoppable Force) is the weapon of choice.
For dual wield I think the only pair that can potentially measure up is persuader + Lobotomizer, and persuader costs a ton in mats to make, and will probably also involve a stiff crafting fee since the neither the plans nor master hammersmiths are terribly common.
Because of flurry, I'd definitely choose crusader for the main hand or a 2H weapon. Off hand is a bit of a toss up between 15 STR or a 2nd crusader.
For raiding, I think the combination of Lobotomizer + distracting dagger is one of the better starting combinations due to the rareness of +weapon skill stats. But it doesn't sound like you'll be raiding with your set, so this would not likely be preferrable.
As equipment scales, the stacking of LOTS of % hit, AP, DW spec and very high DPS weapons eventually bring Dual Wield back into preference, but at pre-raid level gearing, I think 2H fury is probably overall superior DPS, especially when taking into account the current itemization. If Dal'rend's set was epic and available it would be a strong competitor. But you have to give up 6 DPS on your main hand vs. Lobo to get the great stats for a dual wielder, and for 2H TUF is just sitting there with even better stats than the Dal'rend set AND it has the base DPS of an epic.
Assuming you have a reasonable amount of gold (~200g, enough to buy TUF and respec), and it seems you are exalted with AV, I'd transfer 2 copies of your current warrior to the test realms and spec one for DW and one for 2H fury. Use Lobo + Revered dagger on one and TUF on the other. Kill stuff. This way you can compare damage with your current gear. There will either be an obvious difference or the difference will be too small to worry about, in which case you go by personal preference.
1) the need for +% hit is significantly reduced, and that is a godsend in blue / early purple level gearing
2) you get the most from enchant procs (Crusader primarily, but Lifesteal or Fiery work too)
2H weapons are slowest, and the way an enchant proc works is on a proc per unit time average, then applies a % to the weapon. say you have a fast weapon with 5% chance or a slower weapon with 10% chance. Each additional attack has a significantly higher chance of triggering the proc with the slower weapon. This further synergizes with the tendency to prefer WW as a 2nd rage dump (after bloodthirst) for 2H fury vs. heroic strike or cleave for DW. Since WW is an instant it provides an extra chance to proc.
Personally I think TUF (The Unstoppable Force) is the weapon of choice.
For dual wield I think the only pair that can potentially measure up is persuader + Lobotomizer, and persuader costs a ton in mats to make, and will probably also involve a stiff crafting fee since the neither the plans nor master hammersmiths are terribly common.
Because of flurry, I'd definitely choose crusader for the main hand or a 2H weapon. Off hand is a bit of a toss up between 15 STR or a 2nd crusader.
For raiding, I think the combination of Lobotomizer + distracting dagger is one of the better starting combinations due to the rareness of +weapon skill stats. But it doesn't sound like you'll be raiding with your set, so this would not likely be preferrable.
As equipment scales, the stacking of LOTS of % hit, AP, DW spec and very high DPS weapons eventually bring Dual Wield back into preference, but at pre-raid level gearing, I think 2H fury is probably overall superior DPS, especially when taking into account the current itemization. If Dal'rend's set was epic and available it would be a strong competitor. But you have to give up 6 DPS on your main hand vs. Lobo to get the great stats for a dual wielder, and for 2H TUF is just sitting there with even better stats than the Dal'rend set AND it has the base DPS of an epic.
Assuming you have a reasonable amount of gold (~200g, enough to buy TUF and respec), and it seems you are exalted with AV, I'd transfer 2 copies of your current warrior to the test realms and spec one for DW and one for 2H fury. Use Lobo + Revered dagger on one and TUF on the other. Kill stuff. This way you can compare damage with your current gear. There will either be an obvious difference or the difference will be too small to worry about, in which case you go by personal preference.
Conc / Concillian -- Vintage player of many games. Deadly leader of the All Pally Team (or was it Death leader?)
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Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.