A very good read.
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Quote:The international Jewish conspiracy

The Holocaust actually never happened.
Aren't those the same conspiracy? The necessary condition for the second is that it is a fraud perpetuated on the World by the first.

FWIW, a very interesting (if long) read is Niall Ferguson's two volume treatment of the Rothschild financial empire/network. The Rothschilds established a well known and extremely effective international, Jewish led, Banking Network that, among other things, made the Baron Rothschild the richest man in the world at his time of his death (think Bill Gates, twice over, in relative worth). It also financed the spread of railroads in Europe. A variety of other causes and effects are attributed solely to the Rothschild's due to their prominence and ability to finance darned near anything by the turn of the century, but Ferguson, and I think he's supports his position well, finds this critique reductionist in the extreme. Somewhat cloudy is the Rothschild influence and support of the Zionist movement, which Ferguson doesn't cover in as much detail as Barbara Tuchmann does in "Bible and Sword." That latter seems a required read for anyone puzzling through the continuing Middle East sore spot regarding Israel.

The root of the conspiracy theories, I think, grow from the smart business move that the heads of each Rothschild bank / House (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Vienna, Naples) made: making themselves indispendible to the various European aristocrats/kings/nobility in terms of financing their sundry endeavours via bonds rather than by draconian short term taxation. National debt as a credit card policy, writ large. At the same time, the Rothschild houses used an information network (insider trading developed to a fine art) to finesse the various fluctuations in the European bond markets to a general, overall increase in wealth. Capitalists of the purest sort, those financially acute Rothschilds. Getting Knighted, as a Jew, in Victorian England was no small feat. The head of the Rothschild house earned that honor, or perhaps bought it. Not the first purchased peerage, eh? :huh:

Ferguson's work ends, for practical anaysis, with WW I. He lightly covers the Rothschild family's various pursuits up to about 1999. What I read into that was that the family diaries and records he had access to, a lot of which had been held tightly for decades, were not available for any time past 1945.

The conspiracy theorists generally assert, as did Hitler did in Mein Kampf, -- this is not a Godwin moment, nor is it intended to equate all conspiracy theorists with old Adolf, each has his own axe to grind -- that the financial network was used as leverage to erode, to corrode, to corrupt, and to generally ruin the European/Germanic/what-have-you (and Christian) culture as a counter to the enmity the Jew had earned/experienced in Europe from the time of the Crusades to the present. The alleged plot is the aim to replace the global cultural standard(s) with something else/lesser/Jewish/athiest/secular (pick as many as you think apply), That package includes "Communism" and other malevolent perversions of Western society (as seen by our tin foil hat friends). Of course, presuming a monolithic and virtuous "western" or "European" society, or any presumed homogenity, is the appeal to the romantic memory of Charlamagne's empire, and one of the core weaknesses in this whole structure -- thanks to the diverse modes and norms in Europe alone.

The Chinese must find all of this immensely amusing, and to a certain extent, strategically beneficial. It provides a means by which its strategic opponents divide themselves, like the Irish divided before the English Crown for centuries, and thus forego unified action vis a vis China's pursuit of global hegemony over the next generation or two.

Sun Tzu giggled, Clausewitz wept.

Occhi
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A very good read. - by Doc - 05-01-2006, 08:32 PM
A very good read. - by Guest - 05-01-2006, 09:03 PM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 05-01-2006, 09:16 PM
A very good read. - by Smoketest - 07-13-2006, 12:34 AM
A very good read. - by --Pete - 07-13-2006, 12:47 AM
A very good read. - by Smoketest - 07-13-2006, 01:13 AM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-13-2006, 03:29 AM
A very good read. - by Rhydderch Hael - 07-13-2006, 03:49 AM
A very good read. - by Munkay - 07-13-2006, 04:23 AM
A very good read. - by Alram - 07-13-2006, 04:36 AM
A very good read. - by Smoketest - 07-13-2006, 05:15 AM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-13-2006, 09:02 AM
A very good read. - by eppie - 07-13-2006, 09:38 AM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-13-2006, 01:39 PM
A very good read. - by eppie - 07-13-2006, 02:41 PM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 07-13-2006, 02:58 PM
A very good read. - by --Pete - 07-13-2006, 03:55 PM
A very good read. - by Zippyy - 07-13-2006, 03:59 PM
A very good read. - by Ashock - 07-13-2006, 04:16 PM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 07-13-2006, 04:17 PM
A very good read. - by pakman - 07-13-2006, 04:29 PM
A very good read. - by Chesspiece_face - 07-13-2006, 07:45 PM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-13-2006, 11:17 PM
A very good read. - by Smoketest - 07-13-2006, 11:47 PM
A very good read. - by Alram - 07-14-2006, 12:00 AM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 07-14-2006, 12:27 AM
A very good read. - by Smoketest - 07-14-2006, 02:25 AM
A very good read. - by eppie - 07-14-2006, 07:07 AM
A very good read. - by pakman - 07-14-2006, 12:31 PM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-14-2006, 12:38 PM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-14-2006, 12:58 PM
A very good read. - by pakman - 07-14-2006, 01:09 PM
A very good read. - by eppie - 07-14-2006, 01:31 PM
A very good read. - by Alram - 07-14-2006, 03:29 PM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 07-14-2006, 04:44 PM
A very good read. - by eppie - 07-16-2006, 10:36 AM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-16-2006, 12:18 PM
A very good read. - by Alram - 07-16-2006, 04:43 PM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 07-16-2006, 11:33 PM
A very good read. - by Assur - 07-17-2006, 03:36 AM
A very good read. - by Occhidiangela - 07-17-2006, 04:34 PM
A very good read. - by kandrathe - 07-18-2006, 02:43 AM

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