Quote:I also don't believe in this, the 'stunt' would be much too difficult to pull.Yup, just Bush. No other human being has ever tried to "convince" us of anything. Your myopia is showing.
On the other hand, I was not there, I have only read/seen/heard about the incident from western media.
The Bush goverment tried to make us believe a lot of other things...before going into Iraq. Most of which have been proven wrong. Still, a lot of people still believe that e.g. Saddam had something to do with this, and that he had WMDs.
Quote:As I said, I don't believe in this (particular) conspiracy theory (looks too much like the arguments religious people use to prove that god exists (using arguments without proof, which are often impossible to prove that they are not right).....but I can't blame people that do.First there is a difference between two buildings for which physical evidence exists, and a meta-physcial supreme being. When you have physics and even film evidence, believing things is easier.
Beyond Kurt Gödel's ontological argument that I presented in an earlier thread, which distilled is essentially; "IF it is possible for a rational omniscient being to exist THEN necessarily a rational omniscient being exists." Now try to prove that you exist. Rene Descartes "Cogito ergo sum" seems equally trite. Then, if you can prove you exist then try to prove that I exist. Or, that the reality that you experience is equal to the one that I experience. Perhaps you are like Captain Pike, just being fed interesting stimula by bulbuously headed aliens.
Another one I've seen by Lee Strobel in "The Case for Christ" goes something like this;
1) If you can read the historical evidence and believe that there was this man Jesus, then,
2) Multiple sources document his alleged "heresy" before the Sanhedron where he clearly said he was the son of God, therefore; a) he was lying, b) he was telling the truth, c) he was insane.
3) Based on what is documented about the life and acts of the person we know as Jesus, which of a), b), or c) seems most likley.