06-27-2006, 05:17 PM
Hi,
--Pete
PS Get a spell checker and use it. It is irritating when a poster tries to check their spelling (as a courtesy to the reader) and has to ignore a dozen errors in the quoted part of the post.
Quote:. . . I mean witch one of these statements is plausably debateable? 1)the globe is warming 2)green house gasses contribute to warming 3)humans create greenhouse gasses 4)a warmer climate would be significantly inconveniant to owners of ocean front property and place unbearable pressure on remaining interior land masses.You left out the crucial assumption. Squeeze it in between 3 and 4: "Human activity is a (major) contributor to the process." It is exactly this assumption that the rational debate is about. If we're not a major contributor, then we can hardly (for technical reasons alone) control the process. And we do not have either the data or the models to justify a claim either way. If, on one side, there are the money grubbing corporations and their bought lap dogs the politicians, on the other side are the shrill Chicken Little's spreading their alarmist ignorance. And both sides are more interested in grinding their ax than in finding truth.
Quote:Whether we can reverse this trend is a non issue , if all we can do is slow it down then that is what we must do.Once again I ask, just what is so important in the universal and global scheme of things that *humanity* survive. If we're too stupid to see what needs to be done or too hedonistic to do it, then we deserve extinction because we're an evolutionary failure. If we take down some other species along the way, tough.
Not only for the prevention of some distant future disaster but for the current human health disaster that is the toxic air we breath.
Quote:Politicians would have us talk our selves in circles here rather have us force them to come to the table with an actionable plan that could cost a corperation with campaign $'s some money. No way their going to change that as long as they can get away with it. Hate to beat a dead horse but bypartisan and grass roots is the only way we'll ever see a change.I once read that "Politics is the art of the possible." Do you really think the tax payers want to fund programs to solve a poorly understood problem, which may be a non-issue in the first place, when they will not even fund the maintenance of existing and crucial infrastructure? Try rational thought and quit demonizing those who don't agree with you (and probably have a glimpse of a bigger picture than the knot hole you're looking through). Understand the issues before forming an opinion, or else you're just a sheep braying the nonsense of whatever demagogue appealed to you last.
--Pete
PS Get a spell checker and use it. It is irritating when a poster tries to check their spelling (as a courtesy to the reader) and has to ignore a dozen errors in the quoted part of the post.
How big was the aquarium in Noah's ark?