The "Water Fueled Car"
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Quote:The News Blurb on the car that runs on water.

Does anyone have documentation, or some published test information, that shows the kW requirements for the electrolosis process in volved with this?

Occhi
From a guy at CNA:

Quote:This is a sham that has been around for a number of years.

These guys claim that they have developed some new type of electrolysis process that changes the molecular formula of water from H2O to "HHO" (commonly called "Brown's Gas" after it's original "inventor" Yul Brown). HHO as a molecule would be extremely unstable if you could make it at all- it pretty much violates the principles of chemical bonding.

I did a little reading on this, and what they're claiming as "HHO" gas is really just a mixture of the hydrogen and oxygen gas that you get when you electrolyze water (i.e. pass an electrical current through it). These two gases will readily recombine when a spark or flame is introduced to produce water (hence the torch).

The problem is that the entire process is very energy inefficient. The chemical bonds in water are very strong (hence its stability), and a large energy input (via electricity in this case) is required to break those bonds. The amount of energy you get back when you recombine the product gases is significantly less than what you put in. So, although you can create a welding torch by doing this (and by what I've read, not a very good welding torch...apparently it makes for a pretty brittle weld), it would impossible to run an automobile purely on water using this method.

That's why the guy in the video has only converted his car to a "hybrid" - he needs the gas combustion engine to produce the electricity to separate the water. His claim that he can go 100 miles on 4 ounces of water may or may not be true, but the more relevant question is how much gas does he burn over that same distance? I'm sure he's pretty reluctant to answer that question.

v/r,

Jon

Dr. Jonathan Schroden
CNA Representative

So, the Fox News shills were taken in.

Occhi


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The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-27-2006, 09:52 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-27-2006, 10:26 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by the Langolier - 05-28-2006, 01:08 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by DeeBye - 05-28-2006, 02:29 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Nystul - 05-28-2006, 05:14 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-28-2006, 05:31 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by kandrathe - 05-28-2006, 03:31 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-28-2006, 04:05 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by roguebanshee - 05-28-2006, 04:42 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-28-2006, 05:37 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by roguebanshee - 05-28-2006, 06:00 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Artega - 05-28-2006, 06:05 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-28-2006, 06:47 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by SwissMercenary - 05-28-2006, 07:02 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-28-2006, 07:29 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by roguebanshee - 05-28-2006, 07:45 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-28-2006, 07:52 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by roguebanshee - 05-28-2006, 08:16 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-28-2006, 08:56 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-28-2006, 09:35 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by SwissMercenary - 05-28-2006, 11:12 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-28-2006, 11:57 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by the Langolier - 05-29-2006, 03:40 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by kandrathe - 05-29-2006, 06:06 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by SwissMercenary - 05-29-2006, 07:27 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Nystul - 05-29-2006, 07:55 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by kandrathe - 05-29-2006, 07:01 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-29-2006, 07:12 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-29-2006, 07:39 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by kandrathe - 05-29-2006, 10:42 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-29-2006, 11:12 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-30-2006, 12:30 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 05-30-2006, 12:46 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by eppie - 05-30-2006, 07:36 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by eppie - 05-30-2006, 08:03 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Rhydderch Hael - 05-30-2006, 01:08 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-30-2006, 02:25 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Roland - 05-30-2006, 06:38 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-30-2006, 09:27 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-30-2006, 09:52 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Rhydderch Hael - 05-30-2006, 10:18 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-30-2006, 11:06 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by kandrathe - 05-30-2006, 11:33 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Roland - 05-30-2006, 11:41 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Doc - 05-31-2006, 12:12 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 05-31-2006, 03:07 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 06-10-2006, 09:40 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Dozer - 06-11-2006, 05:19 AM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by --Pete - 06-11-2006, 03:22 PM
The "Water Fueled Car" - by Occhidiangela - 06-11-2006, 10:53 PM

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