The Allergy Epidemic
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Hi kandrathe

You have posted some alarming numbers and pictures. However, you did not address my quoted comment.
Quote:Smallpox is extremely infectious, and at this time with mostly unvaccinated populations it would kill at least 30% of the worlds population if it were ever released.

That same number is cited at the WHO website.

Quote:Smallpox had two main forms: variola major and variola minor. The two forms showed similar lesions. The disease followed a milder course in variola minor, which had a case-fatality rate of less than 1 per cent. The fatality rate of variola major was around 30%.

The key word there is "was". Any projections to current populations is an estimate. The impact of poor nutrition and poor quality of water supplies in populations is not part of the calculation. Of course, the flip side of that is that populations today may have access to better nutrition, but may not be availing themselves of it.



Quote:Unfortunately, historical data are available only from periods with substantial population immunity either from vaccination or from having survived natural infection.

I found no data giving the proportions of those who contracted variola major and variola minor.

Additionally, the same site also gives us this (bolding mine):
Quote:Vaccination is contraindicated for certain groups. These include pregnant women, persons with immune disorders or experiencing therapeutically-induced immunosuppression, persons with HIV infection, and persons with a history of eczema.


Now, for polio. First, as I noted, there are issues with the diagnosis of polio in the first place.

Quote:For children who are paralyzed by polio:
  • 30% make a full recovery<>
  • 30% are left with mild paralysis<>
  • 30% have medium to severe paralysis<>
  • 10% die<>
    [st]

Alarming, yes, but incomplete. According to the CDC:

Up to 95% of all polio infections are inapparent or asymptomatic.

Approximately 4%–8% of polio infections consist of a minor, nonspecific illness without clinical or laboratory evidence of central nervous system invasion. This clinical presentation is known as abortive poliomyelitis, and is characterized by complete recovery in less than a week.

Nonparalytic aseptic meningitis (symptoms of stiffness of the neck, back, and/or legs), usually following several days after a prodrome similar to that of minor illness, occurs in 1%–2% of polio infections. Increased or abnormal sensations can also occur. Typically these symptoms will last from 2 to
10 days, followed by complete recovery.

Fewer than 1% of all polio infections result in flaccid paralysis.


My point is still this: We don't know what the relationship is between the epidemic of allergies and vaccinations. And we still don't know whether we might be causing more deaths than we are preventing.

And you may call it righteousness
When civility survives,
But I've had dinner with the Devil and
I know nice from right.

From Dinner with the Devil, by Big Rude Jake


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The Allergy Epidemic - by ShadowHM - 06-05-2006, 02:15 PM
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