Terenas - More 45 min attempts

[Concillian]

Sunday night had one successful group:
Jandrey
Conc
Necrali
Mistique
Xarhud

Xarhud did not have the gloves so was unable to get completion credit, so we have 4 now with completion credit.

2 priests was very nice to help when we got adds. The wipe we had on the first attempt with this group was a wipe because we accidentally pulled casters. If they had been undead, we probably would NOT have wiped because two shackles trivializes most of the content before the baron. Though we didn't have any major mis-steps the second run, we did get a few extras on some of the pulls and the 2nd shackle was a REAL bonus for when things go wrong.

2 holy water and one Arcane Explosion was enough to kill the little skellies that come out after Ramm. It saves a lot of problems with mage worries, both health and mana. The cooldown is short enough and the wait long enough that you can use the holy water again on the 5 black guards that come out of the slaughterhouse.

So Tuesday's grouping 8-8:30 start time is still looking like:
Conc
Necrali
Yuri
Marn
Mogo

With Octord as a sub in for Yuri? Maybe a group with Octord first because he usually goes to sleep earlier?
Not quite sure what to do with 6 people.

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Strategy
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For those who haven't been with us, this is what we've been doing:
1) clear the entrance area and around the cart (tricky pulls and sometimes there are problems because of that). Go most of the way to the spider and all of the way to the Baroness
2) Pull Baroness to cart area and DPS the crap out of her*
3) clear to spider along the right wall (mage and healer clear zigg* while rest of group starts other clearing to spider)
4) kill spider, everyone inside zigg
5) through trap*
6) clear area outside of trap, move to RIGHT of fountain across to the far wall
7) clear most of mobs from along the wall
8) clear groups near Maleki, then Maleki, then zigg
9) rest is straightforward... to gate, aboms, Ramm, skellies, baron

I've put * at steps that have caused us multiple problems:
* Baroness fight sucks, there will be some element of luck involved no-matter what

* there is a banshee right outside of the zigg for the baroness that patrols between the zigg ramp and a 3 pull. You have to be careful to avoid it and another pull of casters when going in and out of this zigg. We've had extra pulls and/or deaths multiple times due to avoiding this 1 mob and we've decided it's fastest to kill this extra mob than worry about it's path twice (once going in and once going out of the zigg)

* right before the trap there is a group of several casters and a wandering spider on the far side of the spider boss zigg. Several times we have not been careful enough about the wandering spider and aggroed this large group when we didn't want to.

One suggestion I saw recently that I think would be a good thing to try is for us to slightly switch up 4 & 5. For clearing the spider zigg, we use everyone EXCEPT the mage, because the mage can solo-clear the trap while everyone else clears the zigg. This can help avoid aggro-ing the group there because we aren't so concerned about all getting into the trap at the same time. Everyone can do thier normal timing because we aren't trying to all go together.

This is another interesting comment I saw:

All of us had at least 1 holy water saved for the black guards. When the doors opened for them to pop out, all 5 of us used the water and the warrior used challenging shout. Our mage then AoE'd and the druid used hurricane. That combined with thorns & ret aura, the guards died in about 7 seconds with no deaths.