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05-17-2003, 10:08 PM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2003, 10:09 PM by WarBlade.)
Swarmalicious,May 18 2003, 04:34 AM Wrote:These are some points of interest that have been buzzing around my head... let's hear the retorts:  :)

None are conclusive, by any means...


there are no accidents:

1 - If the architecht was telling the truth, the prophecy is a 'plan' by the system. Therefore, the architect knew Neo would have to make a choice between saving Trinity & returning to the source...
IF THAT WAS PLANNED, then the rusted latch (that ends up killing the other ship members, and eventually leading to Trinity having to enter the Matrix) was no accident - but how?
Interesting that Morpheus's pump up speech says 'there are no accidents' exactly when they show the rusted latch...

2 - Did Persephone infest Neo with some code when they kiss? (the sexy restaurant girl eats the cake and gets infested similiarly) Why else is she so insistent on him swapping spit with her 'the way he does with Trinity? If it was to give him a 'virus', what was its purpose?
I was wonering about about Persiphone's motives too . . . although 'something in the saliva' doesn't fit. Given the the opprtunities in the film to slip something to Neo that he might ingest, I doubt the kiss has anything do with hidden virii, but I could be wrong. More likely that part is there as a vehicle for the ideas surrounding choices and the mtives for making them as we do.

Quote:3 - Who is the mystery guy in the restaurant? (look carefully when they first enter)

. . .

Somehow this fabled mystery person slipped right by me. <_< I'm going to have to watch this part again to see what everyone's talking about.

Quote:4 - The actor who plays Boba (Jenga) Fett has a Cameo. (He's the operator who closes the gates after the Neb docks)&nbsp; :)

How dare you confuse this arrogant piece of poo with Temuera Morrison. :angry:

*Smacks Swarmalicious with a frying pan*

*Smacks Swarmalicious with the frying pan again*

Quote:5 - What is Seraph's "Thing that matters most"?&nbsp; I don't think its merely the Oracle...

6 - Even though Smith is supposedly a rogue wild card - he plays very crucial parts in the prophecy coming true, by facilitating Neo returning to the source (delays them in the doorway before the bomb can kill them, for one). Is it possible the machines planned all of this? Something else? (Smith's biggest dialogue stressess the importance of "purpose")

Hmm, some nice thoughts, but you're still only scratching the surface.

Go back to the beginning, to the unanswered question of the first film: Why does the system need an artificial construct for the the human minds to exist in. To the machine, the people are supposedly just batteries and yet the machine wants people to think and learn and make decisions.

According to the Oracle everything has a purpose . . . :D
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