04-28-2006, 12:09 PM
oldmandennis,Apr 28 2006, 10:26 AM Wrote:Think it through - if its gonna compare in difficulty to a raid dungeon, it has to take a _good_ player >100hr to figure it out. Not get all the loot, just get through it one time. Alot of casuals will be extreamly frusterated by this. And if you are talking about that level of difficulty/time, you can't just have one section with 4-5 different passages. The whole thing has to be difficult for everybody. You need to have most of the mobs see through stealth, otherwise the thing is trivial for rogues, but if they can't stealth past mobs that hit hard enough to challenge a warrior, rogues will be pulverized. And what's a holy priest to do?
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Apart from the, in my opinion, silly statement that time determine how good items should be, the obvious solution is, then put in items that correspond to the time it takes getting through, gee, how hard can it be. Typically most people think items are based on how difficulty the encounter is. If that doesn't work and if the situation is different (as you say), then base it on time if that is how the game determine how "good" items should be.
You are really just marking words and thinking that if we say "difficulty", it means how hard a boss is to kill. Look at it a bit boreader then, if it is time that is the determining factor, then read "difficulty" as the time it takes to go through or whatever else you feel is the appropriate meassurement and adjust the loot based on that.
Once again, give loot based on difficulty/ time to beat/day of month/phase of the moon/whatever you fell is approproate, for the instance in question and don't constantly assume that everything new in the game has to be on the level of the final raid content. Even assuming your position that it is impossible to have 1 man instances (but apeparantly possible for 5 man, despite not being raid and taking that long) at the level of when people do raids, fine, add them earlier in the game then and at least we can get rid of people claiming "he it is impossible since it can't take as long as our raid dungeons and there is not a single type of item that can be put in it that will not completely the destroy balance of the game", because that is basically what you are saying.
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