Naxxramas

[Jarulf]

I didn't expect you to.  I was asking in general what you were looking for - lvl 60 greens, lvl 70 blue, lvl 65 purple... what?

I think I have allready said so multiple times. Whatever items are suitable for the difficulty of the instance or instances if there are several. If the instance is of a difficulty comparable to what should drop "lvl 70 blue", have it drop lvl 70 blue of ocurse. If you want sich an instance to be for level 20 characters, drop whatever is suitable for level 20 characters, if you want it to be for level 60 characters with top end purple, have it drop similar items and so on.

See, there is a big jump in the amount of time you invest per instance as you move along.  WC, you do one time for 2 hours, probably.  Starting with BRD, if you want to continue to progress your character, you run dungeons multiple times.  And when you start raiding, you hit the same place maybe a hundred times.

Huh, so? Or rather, yeah, ok, fine. What does that have to do with the impossibillity of having single player instances? If it is needed, have the same apply to a single player instance. If it is for level 20 chars, have it be done once for 2 hours (or whatever is suitable) and if it is for well equped level 60 chars, have it take whatever ammount of hours needed and requiering it to be run whatever ammount of times neede and so on.

If I would to pick my personal choise, I would like to have one man instances at various levels, starting, say at 20 all the way up to 60 since that is were I play and were most people play. If it is hard to fit in for a particular type of character, do it for other levels. What's the problem to understand with that?

So now the raiders have to play solo?

Were have I ever stated so? By the way, I am in general against puting players into hard stereotypes such as "raider" and "non raider". Perhaps there are people that never do anything except raiding, then obviously they don't play single man instances, and these would not be for them. But then, I would say that there are not a single character. No matter how hard core, that has never, ever played outside a raid party (or at least in a 5 man group). The whole concept of "raider" don't even exists at levels before 60 anyway, or are you claiming that "raiders" get a free allready ready character at level 60 prepared to do raids? I have the feeling you are assuming that I would want only single man instances at the difficulty of end game raid content, which is a complete wrong assumtion. In addition, should we skip all PvP content as well since it gives items and such only possible to get through PvP and thus forcing us non PvP to go PvP? Of ocurse not.

If you don't want to play outside your raid group, fine, don't, this would not be for you at all then just as some decide to not ever set their for in a battleground (and thus being "locked out" from all that content).

27 was a bit of an exageration, it's supposed to be one for each tree of each class.  However, it would be atleast 9, and probably more.

No it doesn't, just as current instances are suitable for a VERY large veriety possible groups of characters and character classes. As I said, if you really want to tailor it for specific classes, have individual parts of it differ, for example, give monsters slightly different abilities depending on character class entering and so on.

  If you are really challenging the players, there will definatly be encounters that are very easy for shadow priests, and difficult for holy ones, and visa versa.

So? And for the next encounter in the instance after that, the situation will be reversed. DIfferent classes will have different parts differ in challenge, whats the problem with that? It is allready like that in many places of the game today. I can cruise through some quests were others have a hard time (at my level) while in other palces having a horribly hard time, only to see some other class cruise by with no sweat.

If you don't make all the wings, it will be easymode for some classes/specs if it is possible for less optimal ones.  And if it's easy mode, you can't pass out gear better then what you get in Strath/Scholo
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You make it seem like the whole instance must be exactly the same through out, that is, if it is "easy" for one class, the whole instance and every encounter and monster in it will be easy to that class. Have it ever occured to you that one can mix in different kind of encounters along the way that might suite different classes differently? Or that one can adjust based on class? Appearantly not. The game is allready very different in difficulty for different characters at different levels.

Another solution is of course to tailor the items to each class (which would be the obvious choise anyway since it would be stupid droping plate armor if a priest is doing the dungeon, unless you want the items ffor sale in which case it doesn't matter much anyway since they are available to anyone) and hence if you feel you can't make the instance challenging for, say a level 40 hunter while it is so for all other level 40 chars, have the hunter items be of different power so that they aresuitable for the level in which the hunter do the instance for a challenge. It is not hard really as long as you are a bit open minded on how to create things.

I am sure that if one spend slightly more time thinking about it, there are tons of other such things to do that doesn't require a horribly ammount of time and work, yet produces good end result for most (well, except raiders appearantly since they are of the opinion that a solo instance is impossible to do at any level in the game withough completely breaking the balance of the game.