Refining Ragnaros Strategies
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MongoJerry,Mar 22 2006, 09:27 PM Wrote:I want to clarify my position on this.  First of all, I'm genuinely curious about this tactic and want to know how you make it work.  My questions and concerns were real questions and concerns, and I'm trying to picture how you get around the problems I've brought up.  It sounds like from your comments, however, that this tactic is not applicable to the way our guild orients itself during the fight, so scratch the idea of using it on our raids.

However, my primary concern gets back to Magicbag's original post.  What you don't seem to be getting is that this idea of using shadow priests with vamp embrace healing melee dps is an advanced raid tactic that depends on two things:

1.  Having a group of melee dps who know how to position themselves and move during the fight so that they don't take extra damage.

2.  Having plenty of healers who can suplement the shadow priest's heals when the shadow priest is running on fumes late in the fight.

However, Magicbag is in a guild that is still learning the fight.  Since melee dps are dying so much, obviously his guild hasn't yet mastered #1.  Plus, the fact that people are dying also means that they don't currently have an excess of healing power (#2) available to them.  Maybe later, once Magicbag's guild has Ragnaros on farm status, it'd be a good idea to suggest this tactic as a way to have some fun and shorten the fight by 10 seconds, but right now Magicbag's guild can't afford to use it.
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This is a legit curiousity on my part, what is your typical raid composition for Rags? I'm wondering what horde things of as excessive healing because I know from playing both sides that alliance has a big advantage in mana pools and mana regen thanks to paladins. So excessive healing for horde side might be different than alliance side. I'm still very curious.

I'm also looking for a good shot to show our positioning for you. I'll get back on that.
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Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-21-2006, 04:55 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by castille - 03-21-2006, 05:13 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Mirajj - 03-21-2006, 05:28 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by mm262 - 03-21-2006, 05:33 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Xanthix - 03-21-2006, 06:12 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Zarathustra - 03-21-2006, 06:42 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-21-2006, 08:26 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Tal - 03-21-2006, 08:35 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Treesh - 03-21-2006, 09:17 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Zarathustra - 03-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Mavfin - 03-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Quark - 03-21-2006, 10:17 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Quark - 03-21-2006, 10:30 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-22-2006, 01:01 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Mavfin - 03-22-2006, 02:40 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Boutros - 03-22-2006, 03:35 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by redinter - 03-22-2006, 09:34 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by mm262 - 03-22-2006, 04:24 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-22-2006, 05:41 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by mm262 - 03-22-2006, 06:13 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by castille - 03-22-2006, 07:38 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-22-2006, 07:57 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by mm262 - 03-22-2006, 08:29 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-22-2006, 08:35 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by mm262 - 03-22-2006, 08:54 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-22-2006, 10:02 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Quark - 03-22-2006, 10:06 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Mavfin - 03-22-2006, 10:39 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-22-2006, 11:46 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-23-2006, 02:27 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Kevin - 03-23-2006, 04:09 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Mirajj - 03-23-2006, 04:38 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Snowy - 03-23-2006, 12:09 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by lfd - 03-23-2006, 02:25 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by castille - 03-23-2006, 03:03 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-23-2006, 03:19 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Mavfin - 03-23-2006, 04:11 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Snowy - 03-24-2006, 01:03 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by oldmandennis - 03-24-2006, 05:22 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-24-2006, 07:27 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by redinter - 03-24-2006, 12:32 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by castille - 03-24-2006, 03:40 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by castille - 03-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Snowy - 03-24-2006, 09:23 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Tuftears - 03-24-2006, 10:27 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-24-2006, 11:51 PM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Treesh - 03-25-2006, 12:05 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Bolty - 03-25-2006, 12:35 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by MongoJerry - 03-25-2006, 02:25 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Snowy - 03-25-2006, 03:08 AM
Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Snowy - 03-25-2006, 03:12 AM
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