03-22-2006, 05:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-22-2006, 07:25 PM by MongoJerry.)
mm262,Mar 22 2006, 09:24 AM Wrote:1) My Guild is Alliance too, we build 2 Meleeteams like this: 1 Warrior (BS), 1 Pala (Aura + Heal staying at the edge of the lava at max range from Ragnaros) 2-3 Rogues. If you have Shadowpriests take 1 into each meleegroup. We didn't encounter the Problem MongoJerry describes with Ragnaros shooting our manaclasses and that way our melees...
It's not a matter of opinion. This is an absolute fact. Ragnaros grenades only mana users. Now, if your guild has found a position that allows shadow priests to deal damage without being in grenade range of your melee dps, then that's fine. But whatever you do, you don't want those shadow priests to be within grenade range of your melee dps. Otherwise, you end up with all your precious melee dps flying off into the lava, greatly decreasing your overall dps.
It's funny to me that your emphasis is so much on shadow priests. I'm a shadow priest, but our guild has our shadow priests focus on healing rather than dealing damage in this fight. It seems far more important to make sure that the melee dps stays alive and as much as I like vamp embrace, it alone isn't going to cut it. It'd be far more important for priests to conserve their mana for healing in case something goes wrong. If you have a significant number of warlocks in your raid, then I could see assigning one shadow priest to make sure Shadow Weaving is pumped up, but otherwise all priests ought to focus on healing rather than on dealing damage -- unless you have some wierd raid setup where you have an overload of priests.
Quote:If your rogues really do have 200+ FR and are dying, then it is because they are pulling aggro, not because they are getting knocked back. One way to help this is to have them not back out when a knockback is coming. The knockback deaggros everyone within range, even if it is resisted, which can realy help the rogues stay below the aggro threshold.
No, what usually happens is that the main tank gets punted and some members of the melee dps stay in melee range. A main tank punt eliminates everyone's aggro. However, if there isn't a tank on Ragnaros, Ragnaros will turn to one of the people who are in melee range (i.e. the melee dps who didn't back out) and one shot them. The second tank then comes in and starts building aggro, of course, but there's always a couple second delay in the process. If the melee dps aren't trained to back out just before a possible punt, then you'll lose a melee dps person on every unresisted punt.