02-08-2006, 02:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-08-2006, 05:45 PM by Occhidiangela.)
whyBish,Feb 7 2006, 10:54 PM Wrote:You are assuming that the muslim community at large:Not so, whyBish, particularly on part b. My comment indicates that I do not believe that "the Muslim community at large" is empowered or able to change.
a ) Are putting up with it
b ) have the ability to change it.
The "putting up with it" is the effect of feeling powerless, or of being indifferent, or a bit of both. It is the norm for sheep in any society, to include my own.
Quote:I have no clue about the situation in the rest of the world, but in NZ the muslim community denounces violence publicly and often.These Kiwi Muslims influence the greater Muslim community how effectively? Please pardon my cynicism, but their objection is like me sitting on my roof and shouting about the litter in downtown Houston. (I live in Corpus Christi.)
Quote:The protests against the cartoons here were peaceful (although, your media misdirection point is well noted, when reports here went on about muslims rioting etc. and took 30 sec or so before they actually mentioned that it wasn't in NZ)ÂI doff my chapeau to those rational persons. :) May I suggest that the Kiwi cultural norms predominate?
Quote:And if the local Muslim community had links to terrorist and/or violent organisations overseas, then they wouldn't have been able to immigrate (Saying "hey, Mr Osama, my longtime friend, please stop your bombings" is probably enough of an admitted connection to make them face legal action here)The Muslim networks in Indonesia and the Philippines are extensive. How sure are you that their tendrils have not reached beloved Kiwi land? Under Mao's theory of revolutionary warfare, the killer fish swim among much larger schools of relatively harmless fish, using them for cover, until a good opportunity to strike arises. The sharks may simply be biding their time in your homeland.
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Hopefully not.
Occhi
EDIT for messed up tags and goofing up a sentence.
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete