Did I ever mention that I hate cops?
#41
Quote:*sniffs* Hmm, have to admit, smells somewhat odd. No obvious links/scams but a double misspelled "introduction" post with nothing to add to the current thread discussion? May want to keep an eye on this one, but if you are a new member, it may be a good idea to read the forum rules/guidelines and lurk around a bit to get a feel for things.
Well I think his last 13, and counting, posts pretty much guarantee he's a spammer.
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#42
Quote:Well I think his last 13, and counting, posts pretty much guarantee he's a spammer.
Kinda fun to watch, though. Sort of like a zombie inciting panic as he shuffles along a crowded street.
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#43
Quote:6 adult males should have absolutely no problem restraining 1 adult male, without the use of billy clubs, tazers or anything else. The kid deserved to be restrained, handcuffed and arrested. But this is like killing a fly with a sledgehammer.
A person can do some pretty amazing things during an adrenaline rush. Sure, six others of equal or larger build can restrain such a person, but the damage involved might be much more extensive than that from a taser.
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#44
Quote:A person can do some pretty amazing things during an adrenaline rush. Sure, six others of equal or larger build can restrain such a person, but the damage involved might be much more extensive than that from a taser.

The guy did not sound as though he was about to go medieval on them. Also, there's a difference between force and excessive force. Tazering once - maybe. Twice - umm, I suppose it is not completely rediculous, although... hmm. 6 times with this particular guy? Excessive force. After watching the vid, I have to believe that the cops knew that this guy was not a real serious threat. They just wanted to show him who's boss.

See, I have no problem with this method when it is warranted. If a guy is holding a weapon, tazer him 20 times for all I care. Where was the implied threat to them? Where was a possible hidden weapon? In his ass?
I thought that was reserved for watches?

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#45
Quote:A simple sorry will do fine Occhi. :D (I know my 'big part of' is still not proven but I don't feel like asking every single one of them to make statistics., Usually my feeling about these things is correct, so I keep writing down that crap. Just don't get to angry about it):)

And you may call me platypus man. I like that more.
So a cop who does XXXX is an anecdote that supports your gross generalization, which you have yet to support with data and trends?

The Nertherlands is too cold for a platypus. ;)

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#46
Quote:

The Nertherlands is too cold for a platypus. ;)

DR

That is why I'm living in central Italy now.:P
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#47
Quote:The guy did not sound as though he was about to go medieval on them. Also, there's a difference between force and excessive force. Tazering once - maybe. Twice - umm, I suppose it is not completely rediculous, although... hmm. 6 times with this particular guy? Excessive force. After watching the vid, I have to believe that the cops knew that this guy was not a real serious threat. They just wanted to show him who's boss.

See, I have no problem with this method when it is warranted. If a guy is holding a weapon, tazer him 20 times for all I care. Where was the implied threat to them? Where was a possible hidden weapon? In his ass?
I thought that was reserved for watches?

-A
There may be some who need to register their butts as lethal weapons... According to his stories... Doc, perhaps...
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#48
Quote:They just wanted to show him who's boss.
Something I wouldn't call unwarranted in that situation, the kid really needed to learn about authority and respect.

I'm not saying that they didn't take it too far, just that the general principle was ok for that specific situation. Probably a lot better than dragging him out back and beating him up for a couple of minutes.

And you don't have to hurt others to be extremely hard to subdue without harm and/or escort out of a building.
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#49
Quote:That is why I'm living in central Italy now.:P
Aha, I remember. Lucky you. Firenze? Perugia?

Occhi
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#50
Quote:There may be some who need to register their butts as lethal weapons... According to his stories... Doc, perhaps...

:unsure::whistling:
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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#51
I ate a dozen deviled eggs, a whole pumpkin pie, a whole sweet tater pie, and entirely to much eggnog.

I have nothing to say except the stories are all true.

All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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#52
Quote:Aha, I remember. Lucky you. Firenze? Perugia?

Occhi

I recently moved from the Milano area to Abruzzo but it is only temporarily. Hopefully in summer I can enjoy the fact that my appartment is only 200 meter from the adriatic coast (beach).

To come back to the discussion; Ashok you should check it out here once. If you do something wrong here you just shake hands with the police officer and leave him drinking his coffee and everything is settled.:D
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#53
Quote: If you do something wrong here you just shake hands with the police officer and leave him drinking his coffee and everything is settled.:D
And if you accidentially tip over/cause him to spill his coffee, then what? Death sentence?:P:D
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#54
Quote:And if you accidentially tip over/cause him to spill his coffee, then what? Death sentence?:P:D


No, you first find the head of a horse in your bed. Than you can still make it up by buying him a new coffee.
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#55
Quote:No, you first find the head of a horse in your bed. Than you can still make it up by buying him a new coffee.
But, last time I was there, Rome was an eye opener. It is a bit intimidating to see police officers in body armor and carrying fully automatic weapons.
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#56
Quote:But, last time I was there, Rome was an eye opener. It is a bit intimidating to see police officers in body armor and carrying fully automatic weapons.

That body armour was probably a silk/wool blend made by armani, just for the looks.:D


The shooting in NY of a few days ago fits in this thread as well I guess.

I just heard read some small articles in the newspaper. Anybody can tell more about this??
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#57
Quote:But, last time I was there, Rome was an eye opener. It is a bit intimidating to see police officers in body armor and carrying fully automatic weapons.

Oooo ... bring on the Judge Dredd , judge , jury , executioner all in one little package :P -- send only in extreme cases :whistling:
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