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looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - shoju - 04-15-2009
Ok, So I healed as holy in TBC, but I haven't healed anything as holy since 3.0 I just ret healed anything and everything that needed a healer. My dual Spec is going to be holy, but I'm unsure on how to round out the build.
Currently, My healing spec I'm leaning towards is:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sxAzxR0sVu0tgdxZVcbx
Though, I have toyed with not taking divinty and taking 3% more crit and the movement speed in ret. My question is, What's going to be better? 3% crit or 5% more throughput?
And what glyphs should I use? I'm currently leaning toward
Flash of Light, Holy Light, Seal of Wisdom
Kings, Lay on Hands, and Blessing of Wisdom
Am I right? I cant seem to find a consensus in the talking. I have been reading bananashoulders, EJ, and the off spec Maintankadin crew. none of them seem to agree on more than a couple of things.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - Taelas - 04-15-2009
I would say that 3% crit is better than 3% extra healing -- and even 5% extra healing. 5% extra healing isn't going to do much; in any situation where you overheal, you just overhealed by 5% more. 3% additional crit, on the other hand, can cause a non-crit to become a crit, returning mana.
I'm not saying that 5% extra healing is useless; far from it. I just don't think it's nearly as good as crit%.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - bonemage - 04-15-2009
Quote:And what glyphs should I use? I'm currently leaning towardI think any of the Blessing glyphs are for leveling characters, and I'd take the new Beacon of Light glyph. So for majors, Holy Light, Flash of Light, and Beacon of Light. For minors it doesn't matter too much, but Seal of Wisdom and Lay on Hands are good. I take Sense Undead even for holy because those 3 minors are the only ones I have any respect for.
Flash of Light, Holy Light, Seal of Wisdom
Kings, Lay on Hands, and Blessing of Wisdom
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - shoju - 04-15-2009
I thought the seal glyphs were majors?
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - bonemage - 04-15-2009
Quote:I thought the seal glyphs were majors?You are right, there is a Glyph of Seal of Wisdom, and a minor Glyph of the Wise. That is the one I had in mind, as it impacts Seal of Wisdom.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - Concillian - 04-15-2009
Quote:Though, I have toyed with not taking divinty and taking 3% more crit and the movement speed in ret. My question is, What's going to be better? 3% crit or 5% more throughput?
This is something that is somewhat situational. Most likely the extra utility / regen offered by the 3% crit + runspeed will outweigh the better throughput of +5% healing.
You also have the alternative of +run speed and +3% healing. This would be the utility of run speed, more throughput than +3% crit, but less mana friendly due to illumination synergy with +crit.
I feel it's a personal call and there is no truly correct answer.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - bonemage - 04-15-2009
I really like PoJ for the extra runspeed. This is what I took for my Holy build. It takes no prot points, and all 8% crit from Ret in addition to PoJ. It does not have imp BoW.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - Kevin - 04-15-2009
Quote:I really like PoJ for the extra runspeed. This is what I took for my Holy build. It takes no prot points, and all 8% crit from Ret in addition to PoJ. It does not have imp BoW.
That's pretty much the pre 3.1 holy spec (holy didn't change a lot) and is what I'm leaning towards, though I did put Tuskarr's vitality chant on a pair of boots for when I was rostered as the only pally and figured we still wanted kings in the raid, but those boots aren't quite as nice as my other pair that I used when I was spec'd to have PoJ.
The 5% healing talent in prot still feels more like a ret or prot talent to me, though it has viability for holy, I like you just prefer the crit and run speed more.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - Mordekhuul - 04-15-2009
I went 51/20/0 for my holy build, as my secondary spec.
I figure on fights where we want an extra healer I can stick to MT healing and perform stupid human tricks with Divine Sacrifice while providing the improved Devotion Aura buff.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - bonemage - 04-15-2009
Your talent link isn't working right.
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - Mordekhuul - 04-15-2009
Quote:Your talent link isn't working right.
There, I switched to a talent calculator that doesn't suck and can actually generate a working link =)
looking for healing advice for a PVE Paladin - WimpySmurf - 04-15-2009
Quote:You are right, there is a Glyph of Seal of Wisdom, and a minor Glyph of the Wise. That is the one I had in mind, as it impacts Seal of Wisdom.
I view the best Holy glyphs for PvE as:
Holy Light
Beacon of Light
Seal of Wisdom
Holy Light gives you the little bit of AoE heals on your bread and butter spell. Beacon of Light & Seal of Wisdom increase your longevity.
You don't tend to cast a lot of FoL and if you are, many times they're cast on the target you of SS up on, so you're already looking at ~90% crit rate then.
-WimpySmurf