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Two Very Interesting Links. - Doc - 10-01-2005
Link 1
Link 2
Now, with a completely open mind, what do you people think about this? I am skeptical, but my mind remains open to the possibility.
There are big problems with the situation as a whole that just stink. Like the seizing of firearms. Conflicting reports. All the whitewashing going on the media about how bad it wasn't. Reporters that broke stories coming up missing.
This will likely go down as the next big conspiracy theory. No doubt about it, it has all of the right juicy elements.
Who, what, when, where, and why.
Believe in it or not, it is something interesting to toy with in your mind.
Two Very Interesting Links. - Guest - 10-01-2005
I heard that Isreal blew up WTC to make Arabs look bad!!
Two Very Interesting Links. - Any1 - 10-03-2005
Let's say I'm somewhat skeptical. ;)
I don't see how blowing up the levee at that particular point would've saved the places in the city higher than sea level (FQ, etc.) to the detriment of places that were lower (9th ward).
Two Very Interesting Links. - Occhidiangela - 10-03-2005
Doc,Sep 30 2005, 09:26 PM Wrote:Link 1
Link 2
Now, with a completely open mind, what do you people think about this? I am skeptical, but my mind remains open to the possibility.
There are big problems with the situation as a whole that just stink. Like the seizing of firearms. Conflicting reports. All the whitewashing going on the media about how bad it wasn't. Reporters that broke stories coming up missing.
This will likely go down as the next big conspiracy theory. No doubt about it, it has all of the right juicy elements.
Who, what, when, where, and why.
Believe in it or not, it is something interesting to toy with in your mind.
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Your so called sources are at best rumor mongers. That does not mean no bomb went off, surely not, but to start the rumor and not be able to back it up can be done by anyone who knows how to type.
Sturgeon's law.
May I suggest that the conspiracy theory assumes a few things? Most do.
It assumes that someone laid the bomb in place some days before Katrina hit.
It assumes that the agent knew where Katrina would hit and how soon it would dump how much rain, and how soon Lake P would be near to overflowing. Right there, credulity is stretched . . . however . . . we can play along, some folks prepare so that when opportunity arises, action is a viable option.
It assumes that the agent was able to stick around during a hurricane and trigger the device at the correct time.
One did not need to blow up the levee to ensure it failed, to ensure that such low lands as it was protecting would go under, just like a lot of low land in river flood plains did along the Missouri in 1993.
The levee was under an ACoE process (incomplete apparently) that was aimed at the known shortcomings of the levee system. With enough water, it would fail without a bomb. That was known by all and sundry, and had been for some time. (Hence the project, albeit slow and or incomplete) to remedy the shortcomings.
Too much Hollywood and Robert Ludlum, or Tom Clancy, in the rumor. Sorry, not buying it.
Occhi
Two Very Interesting Links. - Doc - 10-03-2005
The only thing in my mind that gives it any sort of credibility at all is that people have gone in, snatched pieces of the levee, and explosive residue has been found.
The question. "Why?" Or "Who?" It had nothing to do with saving part of the city I don't think. But, if you were a land owner, with hundreds of slum houses, that you were pretty much stuck with, and you wanted to be rid of them to build shiny new condos, shopping malls, and fast food establishments, what would you do?
I mean, it would be a once in a lifetime opportunity to be rid of something that nobody really wants.
To develop the 9th ward, you would have to destroy the whole neighborhood. Drive away all the current occupants, the gangs, the criminals, the drug dealers, the whores, and the desperate poor. You could never redevelop a thriving community with that element in place. You would have to raze everything and start over.
Which they can do now.
Just something to think about.
Two Very Interesting Links. - Doc - 10-03-2005
Snipped from various sources found on Google News.
Quote:"Ruptured New Orleans Levee had help failing.
New Orleans, La. -- Divers inspecting the ruptured levee walls surrounding New Orleans found something that piqued their interest: Burn marks on underwater debris chunks from the broken levee wall !
One diver, a member of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, saw the burn marks and knew immediately what caused them. He secreted a small chunk of the cement inside his diving suit and later arranged for it to be sent to trusted military friends at a The U.S. Army Forensic Laboratory at Fort Gillem, Georgia for testing.
According to well placed sources, a military forensic specialist determined the burn marks on the cement chunks did, in fact, come from high explosives. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity said "We found traces of boron-enhanced fluoronitramino explosives as well as PBXN-111. This would indicate at least two separate types of explosive devices."
The levee ruptures in New Orleans did not take place during Hurricane Katrina, but rather a day after the hurricane struck. Several residents of New Orleans and many Emergency Workers reported hearing what sounded like large, muffled explosions from the area of the levee, but those were initially discounted as gas explosions from homes with leaking gas lines.
If these allegations prove true, the ruptured levee which flooded New Orleans was a deliberate act of mass destruction perpetrated by someone with access to military-grade UNDERWATER high explosives."
So. Again. "Who?" and "Why?"
I'd pay a big pile of shiny nickles to find out why.
Two Very Interesting Links. - Occhidiangela - 10-03-2005
Doc,Oct 2 2005, 08:27 PM Wrote:Snipped from various sources found on Google News.
So. Again. "Who?" and "Why?"
I'd pay a big pile of shiny nickles to find out why.
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Given the large number of construction, both on land and on Marine rigs, concerns in the Gulf of Mexico, quite a few companies would have access to underwater explosives. Underwater construction is part of the process of developing underwater pipelines and various marine infrastructure.
Who? Any local construction company. Why? Well, given the Byzantine nature of New Orleans and Louisiana politics, pretty much anyone who knows a developer or ten who'd stand to make money razing and rebuilding large areas of a major city. That would cross party lines, as lucre and greed know no party affiliation.
Occhi
Two Very Interesting Links. - Doc - 10-04-2005
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It was on a local talk radio show today. The part about the explosive residue. And how the major media outlets aren't saying nothing about it, even though it is obviously a big deal. Also a lot of talk about the white washing going on.
They also read the statement about the police officers that were seen looting in Nawlins, caught on film even.
The police were not looting. They were appropriating emergency supplies. Which according to the film, included tvs, dvds, music cds, and designer clothing.
So much white washing, so little time.
Say it with me kids...
BAH HUMBUG.