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utah tax attorney - sonpeter720 - 12-28-2013

LINK REMOVED Paul is a Utah attorney and licensed CPA practicing in the areas of Tax, Business, Estate Planning, Wills, Trust, Probate, and Real Estate. Paul has experience in a wide array of transactions.

RE: utah tax attorney - DeeBye - 12-29-2013

Can we sticky this thread?

I might sometime travel to Utah and have need of a Utah attorney that is also a licensed CPA.
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Seriously, you guys should check out that website. It's the most "legit" spam I've ever seen on the internet. I might even e-mail Paul Jones.

RE: utah tax attorney - LennyLen - 12-29-2013

It is odd. I even looked into the claim about being listed as a rising star by Super Lawyers Magazine and it actually checked out. All of the links on the page are benign and the site itself was created using SquareSpace and WordPress, which are not tools that are generally used by spam/phishing sites. If the page is fraudulent, it's been done very meticulously over a number of years, so my guess is it's a real website.

A search of the text in the OP shows that it's been spammed to a LOT of sites, which I'm sure a lawyer would know is both illegal and damaging to his reputation. I wonder if it's a pissed off acquaintance trying to discredit him.

RE: utah tax attorney - Alram - 12-29-2013

An attorney is someone you hire to defend yourself against other attorneys.
A Utah attorney is someone you hire to defend yourself against other wives.

A Utah attorney walks into a bar and passes the test. Otherwise he can't practice. I wouldn't want him practicing on me anyway.

This guy needs a tacks attorney:
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RE: utah tax attorney - DeeBye - 12-30-2013

I emailed the guy. Let's see if he responds.

RE: utah tax attorney - Bolty - 12-30-2013

Leaving the thread up since it sparked attention. And also because it's about to become educational!

Here's what happens. Say you're an attorney in Utah and you want to get your name out there on the Internet. You're constantly being bombarded with ads and email spam promising to raise your standing in Internet search engines. "Boy, I'd sure love to be the #1 site people see when Googling for a tax attorney in Utah," says poor naive Paul Jones, and one day he breaks down and decides to take up one of these companies on their claim. After Paul pays them X amount of dollars, this company then unleashes their spambots across the Internet to fill up random forums with spam, combined with the other usual spam outlets such as email.

So his name gets out there, and sure enough, his Google ranking rises a bit - temporarily. However, it's all negative attention, and with enough reports this can often backfire. Google's algorithms don't like people who try to spam their way to the top, and if it detects such behavior, it punishes you for it, burying you to the bottom. There was recently a high-profile purging of a music lyrics site from Google entirely when they went to extremes to spam up the Internet to gain attention. But usually Google just pushes such sites to the Twisting Nether...if you're not on the first page of results returned, you're pretty much gone.

Why do I know this? Because 5-10 times a year, I get messages/emails from people who are trying to undo the damage done to them by these spamming companies. These poor bastards beg me to clean out the banned spambots who have registered on this forum and still possess links to their sites in their signatures. Google sees these banned users with these sigs and figures out that they're spambots - and then punishes the site owners for it.

If I feel sorry for them, I'll clean out the spambots' accounts per their request...but I rarely do so. If these idiots stopped paying for the spam companies to do their thing, the spam companies wouldn't exist. And the hoops I have to jump through to keep spam off this forum piss me off. So, f*** them. This poor tax attorney is about to see all of this firsthand and he's going to get what's coming to him.

RE: utah tax attorney - Aahzmadius - 12-30-2013

One of my favorite blogs covers this topic, with particular attention to the legal industry. Before you click the link, be warned that it's a libertarian website specializing in free speech issues (OK, you've been warned).

http://www.popehat.com/?s=outsource+reputation

Plus it contains one of my favorite posts ever:

http://www.popehat.com/2011/08/04/the-tale-of-sigmund-and-the-skunk/

RE: utah tax attorney - DeeBye - 12-31-2013

(12-30-2013, 02:12 PM)Bolty Wrote: Leaving the thread up since it sparked attention. And also because it's about to become educational!

Thanks for the education. I have been educationalized on forum spam.

Very interesting stuff Smile

RE: utah tax attorney - kandrathe - 01-02-2014

(12-30-2013, 08:35 PM)Aahzmadius Wrote: Plus it contains one of my favorite posts ever:

http://www.popehat.com/2011/08/04/the-tale-of-sigmund-and-the-skunk/
Ha! I should start writing some of my fables down.

RE: utah tax attorney - Mavfin - 01-02-2014

(12-30-2013, 08:35 PM)Aahzmadius Wrote: One of my favorite blogs covers this topic, with particular attention to the legal industry. Before you click the link, be warned that it's a libertarian website specializing in free speech issues (OK, you've been warned).

http://www.popehat.com/?s=outsource+reputation

Plus it contains one of my favorite posts ever:

http://www.popehat.com/2011/08/04/the-tale-of-sigmund-and-the-skunk/

I love Popehat. Big Grin