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Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Jim - 05-26-2010 Hi, The oil spill in the gulf is almost uninmaginable, yet it still goes on as I type all 57 words for this post. BP wants suggestions does anyone here at LL have One? Have you heard the story about a truck that got stuck under a bridge? As Paul Harvey would say, "The rest of the Story." Quote:weLEAD Online Magazine Quote: Oil Spill Suggestion Box? BP is Taking Your Ideas RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - kandrathe - 05-26-2010 I have a few suggestions for all oil companies (that are printable here); 1) Plan for the worst possible case, then test your procedures to ensure you actually can handle it. 2) If you can't fix a problem in 5000 feet of ocean, then you should rethink your plan. 3) You need better blow out safety equipment, it needs to be tested, and it needs to be reliable. And, for the US Administration; 1) It's called Federal Emergency Management Agency for a reason... This is a Federal Emergency, so start organizing the resources of the nation to stave off the ecological disaster. Or, heck, just give up and get out of Governor Jindell's way, but be willing to open your check book to at least help out those leaders who exhibit some leadership. 2) Kudos to EPA for finally allowing the use of massive amounts of dispersants at the source to break down the oil before it reaches landfall. 3) NOAA had a plan for dealing with a national disaster like this many years ago, but no one ever funded getting the materials in place to enable us to be prepared for one. 4) How lame is it that we are begging for equipment, and cleanup equipment from Brazil? RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Swiss Mercenary - 05-27-2010 (05-26-2010, 05:06 PM)kandrathe Wrote: Or, heck, just give up and get out of Governor Jindell's way, but be willing to open your check book to at least help out those leaders who exhibit some leadership. Better yet, open BP's checkbook to help them out. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - DeeBye - 05-27-2010 Rush Limbaugh says it's not a big deal. It's a natural thing and the ocean will take care of it on its own. Never change, Rush. I say they try stuffing BP executives in that pipe to stop the flow. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - --Pete - 05-27-2010 Hi, (05-27-2010, 03:09 AM)DeeBye Wrote: I say they try stuffing BP executives in that pipe to stop the flow. Makes more sense than the " . . . open BP's checkbook . . . " While I think the oil companies should pay for the clean up, and they should pay to develop and deploy safety measures to avoid these events and contain them when they happen, throwing money at the situation right now would be a waste. Cooperation, coordination, and free applications of available technologies is what needs to be done now. --Pete RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Mirajj - 05-29-2010 (05-27-2010, 03:30 AM)--Pete Wrote: While I think the oil companies should pay for the clean up, and they should pay to develop and deploy safety measures to avoid these events and contain them when they happen, throwing money at the situation right now would be a waste. Cooperation, coordination, and free applications of available technologies is what needs to be done now. That's what I've been thinking of late, too. Yes, BP is "responsible". Yes, they screwed up. Yes, they need to fix it...but they are going to need help, and this effects a lot more than just them. Everyone who can needs to get involved in this in the best way they can, then, after we've sorted it out, stopped it and cleaned it up...THEN it's time for who owes who how much, who's to blame, the chest thumping and the whatnot. Only THEN. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - kandrathe - 06-05-2010 (05-29-2010, 07:58 PM)Mirajj Wrote: That's what I've been thinking of late, too. Yes, BP is "responsible". Yes, they screwed up. Yes, they need to fix it...but they are going to need help, and this effects a lot more than just them. Everyone who can needs to get involved in this in the best way they can, then, after we've sorted it out, stopped it and cleaned it up...THEN it's time for who owes who how much, who's to blame, the chest thumping and the whatnot. Only THEN.Will you be my President? RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - NuurAbSaal - 06-05-2010 Penny Arcade have a nice take on the story, link to the comic in the second paragraph, but I suggest to read the first one before going there . take care Tarabulus RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Mirajj - 06-05-2010 Will you be my President? [/quote] Sorry, my dual citizenship is Canadian/German. The Americans would want nothing to do with me. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Taelas - 06-05-2010 Is there any reason why they couldn't plug one end of the pipe, put some sort of pumping mechanism on the other end, and pump water from the ocean into a tank, through the leak and the pipe? It's probably a stupid idea. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - kandrathe - 06-05-2010 (06-05-2010, 11:17 AM)Alliera Wrote: Is there any reason why they couldn't plug one end of the pipe, put some sort of pumping mechanism on the other end, and pump water from the ocean into a tank, through the leak and the pipe? It's probably a stupid idea.Pressure. At 1500 meters, the water pressure is huge. 150 times the pressure at sea level. The other pressure to contend with is that of the oil being forced out of the drill pipe. Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Jim - 06-05-2010 Hi, IMO, I believe that BP does not want to permanently stop this leak, they would prefer to capture this oil & sell it. IF they were to stop the leak it means no more oil for BP at this location. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Jester - 06-05-2010 (06-05-2010, 04:34 PM)King Jim Wrote: IMO, I believe that BP does not want to permanently stop this leak, they would prefer to capture this oil & sell it.There does not exist a quantity of oil they could recoup from this that would pay for the PR damage they've suffered here. Their stock price has lost 25% of its value in less than three months. The involved companies are in the hole for tens of billions over this. I have no idea whether your idea makes sense from an engineering perspective. I presume you can always just drill again in the same location, if you want to rebuild, but I have no solid knowledge here. But from an economic perspective, not stopping this leak is crazy. -Jester RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Jim - 06-06-2010 Hi, They will stop the leak when all else fails. Lets see what the relief well does in August. If I understand correctly the relief well is just another way to continue pumping oil at this site. I can't get the pictures of the oil cover birds out of my head. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - kandrathe - 06-06-2010 (06-06-2010, 02:08 PM)King Jim Wrote: They will stop the leak when all else fails. Lets see what the relief well does in August.I understand they are already drilling two relief wells, which hopefully will be completed by August. Quote:If I understand correctly the relief well is just another way to continue pumping oil at this site.Theory here is that pumping from the two new holes into the same bore hole will reduce the pressure on the broken one allowing them to cap it. A side consequence would be continuing to pump from the two new holes, however, I think we've witnessed one fatal down side of deep water drilling. I'd bet there is a call for world wide moratorium on deep water drilling until it can be proven safe again. At least, that seems to be a rational position. Quote:I can't get the pictures of the oil cover birds out of my head.You can always join the movement just by buying dish soap. A bunch of my friends are taking the summer off, to go clean up Gulf beaches. There are things that have not been done that I believe should be done. I'm very disappointed in how badly (slow, unfocused, bureaucratic, passive) our government has been in reacting early to help save the coasts. RE: Oil Spill Suggestion Box - Jim - 06-06-2010 Hi, Sorry I forgot to cut & paste my source for my comments & opinions...> bnet.com <...not Battlenet, yes Businessnet, yes big business the horses mouth. Quote:BP Increased Oil-Capture Rate to 10,500 Barrels a Day (Update3) 10 Famous Spills - Jim - 06-14-2010 Hi, Today BBC news was comparing the 1979 & 2010 spill in the Gulf of Mexico. This is the first time I heard about the 1979 offshore rig spill on cable news, I guess BP is controlling the press. It took 9 months to stop the 1979 spill, Ouch Quote:10 Famous Spills |