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MMOs:Like em' or not? - BrianLeichty35 - 05-13-2005 Ghostiger,May 7 2005, 10:50 AM Wrote:Umm just bad do you think we are at math? I just assumed we had figured it out. The only thing that I can see that you have is bad grammar. MMOs:Like em' or not? - BrianLeichty35 - 05-13-2005 jahcs,May 7 2005, 11:18 AM Wrote:MMo's are cheaper than smoking, drinking, crank, meth... The first ones you mentioned make me wonder about your values if you consider those worthwhile things to be doing. MMOs:Like em' or not? - BrianLeichty35 - 05-13-2005 Mithrandir,May 7 2005, 10:14 AM Wrote:Dude, it's $12 a month. If $12 in a month is breaking the bank for you, perhaps you shouldn't be playing computer games at all and be concentrating on other things in your life. Yes and how much does it cost to purchase the game and then get the client installed on your computer. I'll bet that it isn't $12. MMOs:Like em' or not? - BrianLeichty35 - 05-13-2005 Ghostiger,May 7 2005, 11:31 AM Wrote:Exactly. I dont think the cost is at all prohibative. But I can think of many good reasons to say RL activities are better than any vidio game - even a free vidio game. But it isn't free. MMOs:Like em' or not? - BrianLeichty35 - 05-13-2005 [quote=Mithrandir,May 9 2005, 09:20 PM] What it comes down to, in the end, is that everyone is different. If you're happy with 200 DVDs and new silverware, that's great. If you're happy playing MMO's - hey, that's just great too. Not everyone likes watching movies and would rather spend money to play an online computer game... oh noes, the world is going to end because people are paying to play video games. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I am going to spend money to play a game, I would much rather do it in a Video Arcade than Online. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MMOs:Like em' or not? - BrianLeichty35 - 05-13-2005 SetBuilder,May 10 2005, 01:53 PM Wrote:1. No, I would not pay a monthly fee, no matter how much I enjoy it, as I enjoy other games that don't require the fee equally as much, yet don't have to continue paying. Old, new, there are a LOT of games to play, and only the select few require monthly fees. What makes those few better than all the others? I have older games that are so incredibly much more playable (going all the way back to text-based). I have newer games equally as playable, that look better, in different genres as well as the same genres (spellforce beats WoW by my opinion, in looks as well as the variety of what you run into in the game, yet runs modified version of same engine). One game that I would like to try out when it comes out is Hellgate: London. What I have seen of that looks cool. MMOs:Like em' or not? - jahcs - 05-13-2005 Quote:Quote:(Ghostiger @ May 7 2005, 10:50 AM)quote=BrianLeichty35 No need for insults. Constructive criticism is normally welcomed though. Quote:Quote:QUOTE(jahcs @ May 7 2005, 11:18 AM)quote=BrianLeichty35 I do not consider smoking, drinking, or doing meth to be positive activities. Everyone has their vices, for some it's computer games, sports, cooking, or the more destructive ones I listed. They were selected for humorous effect and because they are fairly common addictions in our society, just like gaming. BrianLeichty35,May 13 2005, 08:45 AM Wrote:Quote:(Ghostiger @ May 7 2005, 11:31 AM) I believe Ghostiger was speaking in general terms that any real life activity is better for you than any video game, even if you found a video game that was totally free. MMOs:Like em' or not? - Guest - 05-13-2005 jahcs,May 13 2005, 01:33 PM Wrote:I believe Ghostiger was speaking in general terms that any real life activity is better for you than any video game, even if you found a video game that was totally free. Yes. Maybe not every possible RL activity is more healthy than gaming, but many of them are. MMOs:Like em' or not? - Encore - 05-13-2005 Well I have seen a lot of posts here that have been flaming many others, and have concluded that it all depends. Some people like to play even if they have to pay, while some don't. Some would love to play them but don't have the money to play, like me. It depends on age and time. Although I think I'm pointing out the obvious, so don't criticise me :angry: MMOs:Like em' or not? - Mithrandir - 05-14-2005 BrianLeichty35,May 13 2005, 11:44 AM Wrote:Yes and how much does it cost to purchase the game and then get the client installed on your computer. I'll bet that it isn't $12. $50 once and a $30 expansion every year and a half or so. You're point? Playing MMO's is *still* one of the cheapest hobbies in existence, and this point is absolutely irrefutable. Quote:If I am going to spend money to play a game, I would much rather do it in a Video Arcade than Online. You're going to be spending *way* more than $12 a month in a video arcade to get in any appreciable amount of play. The point is moot however since you're stating a personal opinion which not everyone shares. Just because I personally don't like corn dogs doesn't mean lots of other people can enjoy them and can do so perfectly legitimately. Quote:The first ones you mentioned make me wonder about your values if you consider those worthwhile things to be doing. First of all, drugs have nothing to do with a person's values. Second, crystal meth is okay as long as you do it... FOR THE CHILDREN. MMOs:Like em' or not? - Occhidiangela - 05-14-2005 Mithrandir,May 13 2005, 09:10 PM Wrote:First of all, drugs have nothing to do with a person's values. Second, crystal meth is okay as long as you do it... FOR THE CHILDREN. Someone finally added two new thoughts, in combined form, to this very tired, very old debate. You win, Mith. So, do you want your prize in crumbs, or in a whole piece of cake? :D Occhi MMOs:Like em' or not? - Nystul - 05-14-2005 Mithrandir,May 13 2005, 10:10 PM Wrote:$50 once and a $30 expansion every year and a half or so. You're point? Playing MMO's is *still* one of the cheapest hobbies in existence, and this point is absolutely irrefutable. Is it? How about chess/checkers/go/shogi/othello. Playing cards. Shooting hoops. Stargazing. Rollerblading/skateboarding. Walking/jogging/biking. Swimming at the town pool. Casual tennis. Reading books from the library. Watching television. Bumping tunes on the boombox, or listening to the ball game. Sketching or writing. Frisbee. Jigsaw puzzles. Singing or dancing. Composing a symphony. Surfing the internet. Programming. Playing any non-subscription PC game for longer than 2 months. MMOs:Like em' or not? - Mithrandir - 05-14-2005 Occhidiangela,May 13 2005, 10:15 PM Wrote:Someone finally added two new thoughts, in combined form, to this very tired, very old debate. You win, Mith. So, do you want your prize in crumbs, or in a whole piece of cake? :D I thought the thread had gotten pretty stale, so I decided to give it a nudge in the right direction! Quote:Is it? How about chess/checkers/go/shogi/othello. Playing cards. Shooting hoops. Stargazing. Rollerblading/skateboarding. Walking/jogging/biking. Swimming at the town pool. Casual tennis. Reading books from the library. Watching television. Bumping tunes on the boombox, or listening to the ball game. Sketching or writing. Frisbee. Jigsaw puzzles. Singing or dancing. Composing a symphony. Surfing the internet. Programming. I have yet to meet anyone who plays board games for any other reason than to kill a random hour or two, so I don't know if they can really be qualified as hobbies that one would put the same number of hours into as a video game, sport, etc. The expense of playing cards is also quite dependent on how good you are at playing :) Nonetheless, I stated that it was "one of the cheapest" not *the* cheapest. If you make a raquet yourself, use tennis balls from the lost-and-found, and play on a public court of course it's going to be cheaper. But if you want to be any good at said sport, you're going to need to sink money into it for lessons, team fees, court fees, etc. Same for many of those you listed above. For every "stargazing" (with or without a decent telescope?) though, there's playing golf, or playing hockey, or doing drugs, or collecting baseball cards, or collecting comics, and so on and so on and so on. Quote:Playing any non-subscription PC game for longer than 2 months. Let's take a deeper look at actual time investment verse cost. Assuming $12/month subscription fee, one $30 expansion, a one-time $50 box fee, and a rather low assumption of an average of 2 hours played per night for a year and you're paying about 30 cents an hour. Most games now-a-days seem to aim for ~30 hours of gameplay, but let's be generous and say that it takes you 60 hours to play through and you play the game twice. With a $50 box price, you're getting about 42 cents an hour - 140% of the price of the MMO... and the MMO lasted longer. MMOs:Like em' or not? - Griselda - 05-14-2005 Mithrandir,May 14 2005, 01:24 AM Wrote:I have yet to meet anyone who plays board games for any other reason than to kill a random hour or two, so I don't know if they can really be qualified as hobbies that one would put the same number of hours into as a video game, sport, etc. Oh, there's people who put a whole lot of time into playing board games. We're not talking "Sorry" though. Most gaming conventions have a board game element. When I went to Origins, I met people who travel around the country to play board games at a tournament level. Needless to say, they clobbered me. :P When you're at the extreme of traveling around the country to play, it's certainly not going to be a cheap hobby. But there is a middle ground. I enjoy playing board games myself, and not just because I'm bored. :P Now, finding a decent (old) copy of Robo Rally, that's an expensive hobby! MMOs:Like em' or not? - Encore - 05-14-2005 Hmm, tell me, how DO you pay for these MMOs? MMOs:Like em' or not? - Bun-Bun - 05-14-2005 Griselda,May 14 2005, 10:14 AM Wrote:Now, finding a decent (old) copy of Robo Rally, that's an expensive hobby! It'll be reprinted soon, so I hear. MMOs:Like em' or not? - Bun-Bun - 05-14-2005 Encore,May 14 2005, 10:22 AM Wrote:Hmm, tell me, how DO you pay for these MMOs? My regular job makes $15 a month look like not so much money. One of the few benefits of seniority is an ascending wage scale; the not-so-great part is having to get old. 10 years to AARP and counting ... MMOs:Like em' or not? - Griselda - 05-14-2005 Bun-Bun,May 14 2005, 08:41 AM Wrote:It'll be reprinted soon, so I hear. I hear it's so different that it's not even the same game, though. :( MMOs:Like em' or not? - Encore - 05-14-2005 What I mean as paying for it is how. You have 12 bucks in your hand, now are you going to drive over to Irvine and hand deliver it to them? It is Paypal or something else? MMOs:Like em' or not? - Rinnhart - 05-14-2005 Encore,May 14 2005, 11:15 AM Wrote:What I mean as paying for it is how. You have 12 bucks in your hand, now are you going to drive over to Irvine and hand deliver it to them? It is Paypal or something else? Roadtrip! (BYOB) |